[squeak-dev] Terms of Reference: discussion is open

Douglas Brebner squeaklists at fang.demon.co.uk
Sat Nov 7 13:51:09 UTC 2009


Bert Freudenberg wrote:
> On 06.11.2009, at 18:46, Ken G. Brown wrote:
>
>> IMHO, such smart guys that are doing the majority of contributions to
>> trunk could have figured out the way forward with Keith's established
>> future methodology using Installer, Sake/Packages, Bob the Builder,
>> MC 1.5/1.6 in about ten minutes.  Some were already up to speed on
>> the way forward. They could then have contributed fixes to the tools
>> for that methodology where required and we would be now in the future
>> instead of stuck in the past, forked yet again with the old trunk
>> methodology (it's not a 'new' development model) that got us into the
>> difficulties in the first place.
>>
>> Ken G. Brown
>
> If it all sounds so easy (which in fact it wasn't, neither for the
> board members nor the community at large half a year ago) then why
> don't you contribute a tool everybody can use to easily harvest Mantis
> fixes into Trunk? Or add Installer support for trunk development? Or
> set up a Bob server to churn out ready-built trunk images and test
> results? Or make a trunk image with MC 1.5/1.6?
>
> It may take you more then 10 minutes but *that* might get us moved
> forward even faster. Trunk development does progress fine, but we're
> all for improved tools and processes, so let's see them.
>
>

>From what I understand from talking to Keith, the very first step of his
new process was: "Throw away the trunk method and replace it in-toto"




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