Not just laziness, but also convenience.
The people who trying it first time, obviously having lack of knowledge,
where all those plugins resided, in what repositories, and most
important - do he needs them to build a test VM.

So, i think there are missing some kind of registry in VMMaker, which
could tell a user , what plugins existing and
where he can download them, what plugins is critical for running an
image, and what is optional and can be ignored.

It would be cool to have a 1-click VM builder. So, anyone could
download, install & build VM, without requiring user attention.



2009/11/17 Andreas Raab <andreas.raab at gmx.de>:
> David T. Lewis wrote:
>>>
>>> * FFI-SharedPools
>>> * FFI-Kernel
>>> * FFI-Tests
>>> * FFI-Examples
>>
>> Good, if you can make this change and make it available on a repository,
>> then
>> I'll update the MCConfiguration for VMMaker to pull in the
>> FFI-SharedPools.
>> Bert suggested the same naming convention for Speech-SharedPools, so I
>> can update the Speech packaging if that is the preference.
>
> Done. I've actually named the package FFI-Pools (shorter and to the point);
> I don't think that naming matters as long as you can figure out what it
> likely contains.
>
>>> The structure makes a lot of sense and I could even imaging moving the
>>> plugin here (i.e., into FFI-Plugin).
>>
>> I have a slight bias, motivated primarily by personal laziness, toward
>> the original Squeak categories that would lead to e.g.
>>
>>  VMConstruction-Interpreter/ObjectMemory
>>  VMConstruction-Plugins/FFIPlugin
>>  VMConstruction-Plugins-OSProcessPlugin/OSProcessPlugin
>>
>> But either convention would be fine. Long term I think that VMMaker should
>> be repackaged into smaller pieces, and I have a hard time improving on the
>> category names that were used back in Squeak 2.4.
>
> I have no particular preference either way. The laziness is traded in my
> view by making sure you actually know how to find the prerequisites, i.e.,
> you won't be able to load VMMaker if you don't know where to find the FFI
> pools but that should be fair game if you don't care about the FFI. Or more
> to the point Speech. I'm sure there are people out there who don't care
> about the Klatt plugin and forcing them to go onto a hunt for this or that
> prerequisite seems pointless unless they care. But then, given that I just
> went through the process of installing all the bits  I can see your point
> about laziness :)
>
> Cheers,
>  - Andreas
>
>
>



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