[squeak-dev] 64 bit images

Marco Schmidt Marco.Schmidt at Taugamma.de
Tue Nov 17 19:21:54 UTC 2009


If I had a 64 bit image I would import all OpenStreetMap data and
experiment with algorithms to access/render this dataset fast...

Marco Schmidt


2009/11/17 Nicolas Cellier <nicolas.cellier.aka.nice at gmail.com>:
> 2009/11/17 Ramiro Diaz Trepat <ramiro at diaztrepat.name>:
>> My brother is a mathematician that researches on issues related to the flow
>> of gases in the atmosphere.
>> He runs tests on enormous amounts of data he has on cubic "pixels" of the
>> atmosphere.
>> If he puts all this data on a database the tests become real slow, hence at
>> one point I thought it would be great to implement all his tests in a large
>> in-memory image.
>> If I had a 64 bit squeak I'd do it  :)
>> Cheers
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> Oh, maybe a use case for Smallapack.
> A pity it does not work in Squeak yet...
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> Nicolas
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>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 2:50 AM, John M McIntosh
>> <johnmci at smalltalkconsulting.com> wrote:
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>>> Ok, one of the objectives of building 64 bit Squeak VM hosting app was to
>>> let people explore solutions to address what a 64 bit image can do,
>>> without the hosting harness it's hard to explore what's feasible.
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>>> A simple example is what happens if you have a 4GB 32bit image, although
>>> I've asked people if such a beast exists, no takers.
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>>> I'l note based on visual feedback at ESUG, and supporting hearsay you'll
>>> find *lots* of alpha developers using Squeak run on  OS-X, so let's push the
>>> envelope?
>>>
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>>> On 2009-11-16, at 4:32 PM, Eliot Miranda wrote:
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>>> > I concur :)  But that's partially my next target, both to have a more
>>> > efficient object representation (class decode is very slow with the current
>>> > one, we could do with immediate characters and in 64-bit immediate Floats)
>>> > and to provide pinning for the threaded FFI.  Its probably hubris to imagine
>>> > the product will scale to > 4Gb but I hope it won't be any worse :)
>>> >
>>> > - Bert -
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