On 27-Nov-09, at 8:13 AM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:

>>>>>> "Colin" == Colin Putney <cputney at wiresong.ca> writes:
>
> Colin> ...and code, perhaps? I did a bit of poking around, but  
> couldn't find
> Colin> anything on the web that said what the license actually is.  
> Can you be
> Colin> more specific than "liberal?"
>
> MLS made it clear at the meeting that Cincom's default release model  
> is now
> "open source" except for things that are business differentiating,  
> and in
> fact, in particular, they would really like to see Xtreams adopted  
> widely, so
> the license would have to be MIT-like for htat to happen.
>
> I'm sure if we poked Arden or James Robertson we could get a  
> statement of
> license for Xtreams available rather quickly.

I'm not going to hold my breath on that one. When Vassili wrote  
Announcements, I tried to get Cincom to attach an open source license  
to it. They loved the idea, wanted Announcements to be adopted widely,  
etc. Very positive, but never actually did it. Eventually, I wrote a  
new implementation from scratch in less time than I had already wasted  
dealing with Cincom.

This was a few years ago, and maybe things have changed at Cincom, but  
given that they haven't actually attached a license yet, I'd be very  
surprised if the shortest path to Xtreams-like functionality in Squeak  
involved the Cincom code.

Colin