[squeak-dev] Squeak for Email

Bert Freudenberg bert at freudenbergs.de
Fri Oct 23 20:48:55 UTC 2009


On 23.10.2009, at 21:21, Nicolas Cellier wrote:

> 2009/10/23 Jecel Assumpcao Jr <jecel at merlintec.com>:
>> Ronald Spengler wrote:
>>
>>> Which makes me wonder: does anyone here read the list from within a
>>> squeak image?
>>
>> Me, from this 3.9 image. And pressing the "Custom F." button and
>> creating a "hasText: 'X-Mailer: Celeste'" filter shows that Göran was
>> also doing this until at least April 2008.
>>
>> Of course, this makes it trivial to deal with commit messages. I just
>> point to one and press the "Part F." button to see nothing but  
>> commits.
>> I can quickly scan them and "move all" to my squeak-dev folder before
>> checking out the actual discussions without interruptions. Given that
>> not everyone has such nice options (including me when forced to use  
>> some
>> webmail interface once in a while), I think a daily digest is the  
>> best
>> compromise for now.
>>
>> -- Jecel
>>
>>
>>
>
> Again, I think daily digest is the worst solution, who would read  
> that ?
> I won't.
>
> Moving the discussion to another list is OK for core programmers, they
> will subscribe.
> But not only implementation details are discussed here, some features
> that might have impact on daily programming also are.
>
> A user who won't subscribe will loose :
> - ability to control activity of core developpers,
> - ability to participate actively on a specific new feature they want
> or want not,
> - ability to request maintaining compatibility on a deprecated  
> feature.
>
> That's one goal of trunk if I understood it : raise an interest in
> participating in core development, be it by some code input, or by
> negative feedback about some changes.
> I think it is essential, unless everyone is satisfied with current
> state of Squeak.
>
> After all, I don't care, because fortunately there is also Pharo.
> Better having two horses than one.
> Pharo was the main reason for raising a trunk wasn't it ?
>
> Nicolas

Good points.

IMHO if commit notices were to be sent to a special commits list, then  
no discussion should happen over there, but it would have its Reply-To  
set to squeak-dev.

As I see it, the alternative to digests is creating a "users" list,  
which would result in splitting the community as you describe above. I  
think I hear most don't want that yet, so maybe we should try the  
digests for a while?

- Bert -




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