[squeak-dev] Squeak for Email

Jason Rogers jacaetevha at gmail.com
Sat Oct 24 00:24:47 UTC 2009


FWIW... I simply delete the commit messages, it's easy enough to
filter them straight to the trash, but I actually scan the subject
lines or preview lines in GMail, then delete them manually or select
the ones I want to read. It's not a hassle for me, and I am definitely
not a core developer.

On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Bert Freudenberg <bert at freudenbergs.de> wrote:
>
> On 23.10.2009, at 21:21, Nicolas Cellier wrote:
>
>> 2009/10/23 Jecel Assumpcao Jr <jecel at merlintec.com>:
>>>
>>> Ronald Spengler wrote:
>>>
>>>> Which makes me wonder: does anyone here read the list from within a
>>>> squeak image?
>>>
>>> Me, from this 3.9 image. And pressing the "Custom F." button and
>>> creating a "hasText: 'X-Mailer: Celeste'" filter shows that Göran was
>>> also doing this until at least April 2008.
>>>
>>> Of course, this makes it trivial to deal with commit messages. I just
>>> point to one and press the "Part F." button to see nothing but commits.
>>> I can quickly scan them and "move all" to my squeak-dev folder before
>>> checking out the actual discussions without interruptions. Given that
>>> not everyone has such nice options (including me when forced to use some
>>> webmail interface once in a while), I think a daily digest is the best
>>> compromise for now.
>>>
>>> -- Jecel
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Again, I think daily digest is the worst solution, who would read that ?
>> I won't.
>>
>> Moving the discussion to another list is OK for core programmers, they
>> will subscribe.
>> But not only implementation details are discussed here, some features
>> that might have impact on daily programming also are.
>>
>> A user who won't subscribe will loose :
>> - ability to control activity of core developpers,
>> - ability to participate actively on a specific new feature they want
>> or want not,
>> - ability to request maintaining compatibility on a deprecated feature.
>>
>> That's one goal of trunk if I understood it : raise an interest in
>> participating in core development, be it by some code input, or by
>> negative feedback about some changes.
>> I think it is essential, unless everyone is satisfied with current
>> state of Squeak.
>>
>> After all, I don't care, because fortunately there is also Pharo.
>> Better having two horses than one.
>> Pharo was the main reason for raising a trunk wasn't it ?
>>
>> Nicolas
>
> Good points.
>
> IMHO if commit notices were to be sent to a special commits list, then no
> discussion should happen over there, but it would have its Reply-To set to
> squeak-dev.
>
> As I see it, the alternative to digests is creating a "users" list, which
> would result in splitting the community as you describe above. I think I
> hear most don't want that yet, so maybe we should try the digests for a
> while?
>
> - Bert -
>
>
>



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Jason Rogers

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