[squeak-dev] Metacello

Bert Freudenberg bert at freudenbergs.de
Wed Sep 2 22:49:44 UTC 2009


On 02.09.2009, at 23:07, Avi Bryant wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Eliot  
> Miranda<eliot.miranda at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> No amount of effort announcing, documenting, and promoting makes any
>>> difference. I have made considerable efforts on all three over the  
>>> past
>>> 3 years whereas in contrast Lukas does no announcing, documenting or
>>> promoting, yet people use his stuff without a second thought.
>>
>> Simply not true.  Google Lukas Renggli and you get
>>    http://www.lukas-renggli.ch/
>>
>> Click on the Magritte link and you get overview, installation  
>> instructions,
>> links to mailing lists, code repositories, instructions on how to  
>> report
>> errors, a list of publications and a tutorial.
>
> Indeed.  And the projects (there are many) that Lukas (or myself or
> Andreas, who you also named) *doesn't* take the time to document and
> promote tend not to get widely used or even known about.  A recent
> favorite of mine is PetitParser: http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/petit/
> .
>
> Getting community adoption of an open source project is *hard*, and it
> takes a lot of careful work and not a small amount of luck.  I've been
> successful exactly twice, with Seaside and with Monticello.  But when,
> eg, I announced a brand new Smalltalk system on the Seaside list last
> week (http://clamato.net), the thread sank without a trace. Them's the
> breaks.


Now if you hadn't tucked this away in "btw" remark here I'd have said  
"Awesome!" and shown it to all my friends ;)

- Bert -





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