El mié, 02-09-2009 a las 16:50 -0700, Igor Stasenko escribió:
> 2009/9/2 Germán Arduino <garduino at gmail.com>:
> > 2009/9/2 Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda at gmail.com>:
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> No amount of effort announcing, documenting, and promoting makes any
> >>> difference. I have made considerable efforts on all three over the past
> >>> 3 years whereas in contrast Lukas does no announcing, documenting or
> >>> promoting, yet people use his stuff without a second thought.
> >>
> >> Simply not true.  Google Lukas Renggli and you get
> >>    http://www.lukas-renggli.ch/
> >>
> >> Click on the Magritte link and you get overview, installation instructions,
> >> links to mailing lists, code repositories, instructions on how to report
> >> errors, a list of publications and a tutorial.
> >> Google Keith Hodges and Bob the Builder and you get
> >>
> >>  http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/release/2008-October/000036.html
> >> which, when I read it, presumes I know an awful lot of context I have no
> >> clue how to create.  There's no overview, there's no pointer to code,
> >> there's no tutorial, no hand-hlding, juts a description of how you go about
> >> things once you understand how the whole thing works.  i.e. far too
> >> demanding for a noob like myself.  I'm simply not smart enough to figure out
> >> how to use your system form that description.
> >> Magritte on the other hand looks like it could be worth some of my ever
> >> shorter in supply time to explore. (As does Pier, Scriptaculous and the rest
> >> of Lucas's thoughtfully presented projects).
> >>
> >
> > +1
> >
> > Sorry Keith, I respect your work and the time you invested as the time
> > and work of any person contributing
> > with Squeak, but I'm in a similar situation of Eliot, never understood
> > the whole context of all your tools with
> > exception of Installer.
> >
> > As all of us, my free time is very limited, but I try to be acquainted
> > of all the Squeak news, mainly the tools and
> > process to build "our" Squeak and think that we need a consensus prior
> > to adoption of tools and, afaik, I think that
> > such consensus don't exist yet.
> >
> 
> (wearing my Board member hat)
> so, any volunteers to help Keith to document & publicize the essence
> from his tools?
> (wearing off the hat)
> 

http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/pipermail/pharo-project/2009-August/012118.html

He doesn't want help.

> :)
> 
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