IMH (and undistinguished) O:

End users, once they learn enough about a system, *love* to skin their
favorite apps. It's a creative form of play which is at once technical
and aesthetic.

I feel pretty strongly that there's a powerful generalization
available here: that there should be an architectural separation
between implementation and presentation. This is why I'm in favor of
including Polymorph (or something like it) in a base image, in spite
of a personal leaning toward a minimal base system ala Cuis.

Basically, I think that user interfaces still suck enough that we
should have the best possible tools for the end user to evolve them in
the same way that we have great tools for evolving our underlying
structures and logic.

Simply implementing a "better" look and feel doesn't strike me as the
best approach. It would be much better to find ways to make it easier
for people in the community to make their own aesthetic decisions. I
think that's how we'll get the best look and feel.

But that's just my opinion.



On Wednesday, September 16, 2009, Giuseppe Luigi Punzi
<glpunzi at lordzealon.com> wrote:
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> El mar, 15-09-2009 a las 15:16 +0200, Michael Haupt escribió:
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> would it not be an interesting idea to make Vassili Bykov's facelift
> patches the standard in the trunk? I, for one, really like the lean
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> Obviously, the patches would first have to be made available to the
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> Still, the overall look would benefit, at least in my opinion. Maybe
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> Something themeable, and with more widgets, like Polymorph (with only one theme installed and the others as optionals for example), could be interesting to have integrated in the image IMHO. I would like to see SqueakUI Builder working out of the box over Squeak (it depends on Polymorph and is being developed over Pharo).
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Ron