[squeak-dev] a little more due process

Ken G. Brown kbrown at mac.com
Wed Feb 17 05:37:52 UTC 2010


At 10:47 PM -0500 2/16/10, David T. Lewis apparently wrote:
>On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 08:41:22PM +0000, keith wrote:
>>
>> I put 3 years into THIS goal with the board's approval, and you 
>> scuppered me without a second thought because you were too impatient 
>> to even email me to ask how far away a release would be, and now you 
>> tell ME to be patient!!!!
>
>Hmm... I remember back when the alleged injustices were supposedly being
>perpetrated, I took a look at the archives of the release team mailing
>list. Big surprise - what Keith is saying is total nonsense. The board
>pinged the release team on several occasions with no apparent response.
>Nothing was getting delivered, no timeline was available, and there was
>no indication that another three years would not go by without any
>results.
>
>I also took a look at Keith's actual work as it related to bugs that
>I was personally familiar with on Mantis. Big surprise - things labeled
>as "fixes" that were not fixes, things tagged for inclusion in the
>mythical "new release" that could not possible work. Hmmm... this does
>not smell right.
>
>So from my point of view what I see is:
>  - Lots of fancy talk about fictious deliverables
>  - No actual deliverables
>  - Excuses about why nothing gets done
>  - Scapegoats who are at fault for the failure to deliver whatever it
>    was that was almost ready to be finished real soon now if only people
>    were enlightened enough to appreciate it
>  - Sloppy work, full of errors, incomplete, undocumented
>
>In a word: bullshit.
>
>My comments are directed specifically towards Keith, and are not intended
>to reflect negatively on the actual 3.11 release team leader, who AFAIK
>has been consistently positive and constructive.
>
>Dave

It is apparent to me that you have no real understanding of what Keith has been talking about and have made no effort in that regard.

Ken G. Brown



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