Edgar J. De Cleene wrote:
> On 2/17/10 6:06 AM, "Andreas Raab" <andreas.raab at gmx.de> wrote:
>> The idea is to combine both the free-for-all
>> easy access trunk development with managed bug fixing for released
>> versions. I'm all in favor of the latter (just as long as it doesn't
>> prevent the former). And obviously, this model can be applied
>> retroactively to produce 3.10.3.
> 
> -1
> 
> We should go forward and no backwards.

I agree with the general inclination of moving forwards, however, 
providing fixes is generally a Good Thing (tm), just very resource 
intensive. We don't have many resources, so we have to be careful how we 
split our energy between moving forwards and supporting existing releases.

What I've been trying to describe is a process that I think we can 
actually sustain with the resources we have. That's because we do it 
reasonably often (every 6 months), reasonably quickly (2 weeks) and 
hopefully automated to some extent. Spending two weeks every six months 
to look through Mantis to see what fixes might help an existing release 
is time well spent for people using a Squeak release for their own work.

> Start to talk about 3.10.3 only for Keith do not complains is no good.

Mentioning 3.10.3 was intended as a test bed for the process. Kinda like 
saying, okay let's just go over Mantis, select fixes that are important, 
package them, ship them as 3.10.3. Since we need to start the process 
somewhere we might as well start it with 3.10. It would teach us 
something about the process.

> But I wish a proper close of 3.10.2 and a freeze of 3.11.

Yes, we talked about it in the board meeting today and I've been tasked 
to write something up about it.

> I want you as Squeak CEO and have my vote.

To be clear, I don't want to be a CEO. I'm not sure if you know what 
that *actually* implies; I've done the job, I completely hated 
everything to do with it. I'm an engineer, a system-builder, not a CEO.

The board itself is truly a board of equals, great and wonderful 
personalities who I am proud to associate with. There is only one person 
who I'd say does significantly more than anyone else, and that's Ken. 
Ken has been by far the biggest surprise to me - he is truly the 
secretary, keeping everything together, making sure we have an agenda, 
making sure we post the summary, nagging people where necessary, keeping 
the communications going, etc.

That Ken isn't running again is a *huge* loss for the next board, much 
larger than my absence could ever be. If you have any influence on his 
decisions (heck even if not!) send him a note to reconsider, *beg* him 
if you must. And I apologize to Ken for putting you on the stand here 
but I really, really, really like you to reconsider :-)

Cheers,
   - Andreas