> I think that main issue why Chris wants Keith banned is not his
> position and opinion,
> but his continuous and repetituous attacks on a single subject.
>
> With all respect to Keith, and his position, i don't understand why i
> need to read the same things over and over again,
> why i need to waste time explaining my own position over and over  
> again.
> For intelligent/wise people its usually takes 1 or 2 attempts to
> understand something. You either understand it, or not and then based
> on outcome you either sharing the same thoughts with others or just
> leave things as it, because you can't understand or disagree.
>
>
> -- 
> Best regards,
> Igor Stasenko AKA sig.
>

And the continuation of this discussion is needed and will go on  
forever until the board gets "terms of reference" and goes back to  
being an "oversight" committee rather than acting like and believing  
they are dictators.

See I said it again... I did not mention Germans... I mentioned  
dictators, and I quoted Satre, go and look the word up in the  
dictionary.

I will not be making any further contribution until the board has  
terms of reference.

I have left this community.

I will not be running for the board or voting for the board.

All my projects published on squeaksource are no longer maintained  
unless I need to fix them for commercial reasons. The reason for this  
is that it is impossible to maintain and test packages for all forks,  
if it works it works, if it doesn't work for your context then you  
have to fix it for your context. The context (image) I am using to  
develop things is not the same image you are using, so because there  
is no universally useful testing framework for making sure everything  
is ok in all forks. We had that vision, we don't any more. The process  
of actually maintaining a cross-fork package is not supported by any  
tools or political will to make tools, so it is only fair to say that  
nothing is supported, because I don't have time, and no-one is paying  
me to support your fork, (which includes trunk)

Incidentally I am also moving away from dependence on squeaksource and  
monticello so you probably will not even find my future code, because  
there is no framework for publishing what is available in my context,  
so that you can see it might be useful in your context. So it would be  
unfair of me to tell you that my projects are supported, if they are  
only supported in an image I have control over, which is the truth.

I am ONLY here because Cuis is here, I am not in #squeak irc any more,  
because I wont be treated like that again. There is now a #cuis room  
too.

If cuis gets its own mailing list I will go there.

Squeak is not a viable basis for comerical work since the "community"  
is too unstable, and the code base is out of your control. If you bet  
the house on it, someone will knock your house down (you have been  
warned)

Manifesto for Cuis based development coming up...

Keith





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