El jue, 14-01-2010 a las 20:45 -0800, Andreas Raab escribió:
> Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
> > If you find this difficult to do, is it is because you to use a crappy OS.
> 
> Or perhaps it's because your instructions are so poorly written? 

Well, that is the same for 80% of code from smalltalk, very good code,
crappy documentation or tutorials.

And the fact is that windows is a very poorly environment to write
generalized instructions that serve well to every user. Updated OS,
non-updated OS, conflicting DLLS, overwriten DLLs, no way to "easily"
know what is installed. No way to ask the users versions of packages
installed, etc, etc, etc. And at least there is some documentation and
Mariano isn't directing the user to read the "class comments" for help.


So, it takes effort from the documentation to reach a point when there
is completely error-free. I'm sure that this, if needed, will force the
SqueakDBX team to improve the documentation so that this won't happen
again to other user of SqueakDBX.

Cheers


> Seriously, blaming your users for their OS when it's your instructions 
> that don't tell them what and how to do it is pretty cheap. And it won't 
> do anything for your future user base if people have to assume to be 
> insulted when they can't cope with your instructions.
> 
> Cheers,
>    - Andreas
> 
> 
> >     "MysqlTinyBenchmarks new benchmarkInsert", and it crashed the VM.
> > 
> > 
> > third, these benchmarks are for the mysql native driver, not for 
> > SqueakDBX. The same as the PG*Benchmarks, which are for the native 
> > Postgresql driver. We build them to compare results to our driver. Our 
> > benchmarks are DBX*Benchmarks.
> > 
> > Finally, it has no sense to run benchmarks if you don't first run tests 
> > and be sure eveything works ok.
> > 
> > Cheers
> > 
> > Mariano
> >  
> > 
> > 
> >     ---John
> > 
> >     On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 12:05 PM, John Chludzinski
> >     <john.chludzinski at gmail.com <mailto:john.chludzinski at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >      > I'm afraid I don't have time now to play a "Whac-A-Mole" dll game
> >      > trying to get this to work.  SORRY but I have a schedule breathing
> >      > down my neck!  I appreciate your eforts though.
> >      >
> >      > If at some point you have a tried-and-true step by step method to
> >      > install SqueakDBX I'd certainly be interested.
> >      >
> >      > THANKS again, John
> >      >
> >      >
> >      > On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 10:53 AM, John Chludzinski
> >      > <john.chludzinski at gmail.com <mailto:john.chludzinski at gmail.com>>
> >     wrote:
> >      >> I have the following dll's in my bin folder (along with
> >     Croquet.exe):
> >      >>
> >      >> libopendbx-1.dll
> >      >> libmysqlbackend-1.dll
> >      >>
> >      >> And I still have the problem?
> >      >>
> >      >> ---John
> >      >>
> >      >>
> >      >> On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 6:48 PM, John Chludzinski
> >      >> <john.chludzinski at gmail.com <mailto:john.chludzinski at gmail.com>>
> >     wrote:
> >      >>> Using SqueakMap I installed "SqueakDBX, version: 1.1"
> >      >>> (OpenDBX-Core-MarianoMartinezPeck.234.mcz).  I then installed
> >      >>> FFI-Win32-ar.2.mcz, just to make sure I had the necessary FFI
> >     support.
> >      >>>  Tried "MysqlTinyBenchmarks new benchmarkInsert" again and died
> >     with
> >      >>> 'Loading backend library failed' in DBXPlatform>>createConnection:.
> >      >>>
> >      >>> BTW, I checked and indeed libopendbx-1.dll is in the bin folder.
> >      >>>
> >      >>> Any ideas?
> >      >>>
> >      >>> ---John
> >      >>>
> >      >>>
> >      >>> On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 5:32 PM, John Chludzinski
> >      >>> <john.chludzinski at gmail.com
> >     <mailto:john.chludzinski at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >      >>>> I also using MySQL on Windows XP.
> >      >>>>
> >      >>>
> >      >>
> >      >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > 
> > 
> 
> 

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