[squeak-dev] Interesting survey about smalltalk

Jimmie Houchin jdev at cyberhaus.us
Mon Jun 21 19:07:47 UTC 2010


On 6/21/2010 9:27 AM, Levente Uzonyi wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Jun 2010, Jimmie Houchin wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I would love to be using Squeak for my financial application. 
>> Numerical performance isn't currently what is stopping me. My problem 
>> is that I require interfacing with a Windows COM dll and in a future 
>> version with a Java library. Hopefully at some point I will be able 
>> to port to Squeak. I would much prefer it to using Python, which is 
>> what I am currently using.
>>
>> I didn't even know Squeak was in the running until I discovered the 
>> Matrix class. And for what I need to do it performs reasonably 
>> adequately. However Squeak does not to my knowledge have a 
>> comprehensive collection of mathematics methods to be able to be 
>> applied to a variety of data. Currently I am using Python and Numpy 
>> which has a nicely optimized Mathematics/Scientific set of functions 
>> using optimized C/Fortran libraries. I would love to see Squeak 
>> compete in this area. In fact the Numpy people are currently 
>> refactoring the library to turn it into a C library usable by other 
>> languages.
>>
>> Here is some samples from my experimentation.
>>
>> Some of what I am doing is doing rolling calculations over my dataset.
>>
>> dataset is one weeks worth of OHLC data of a currency pair.
>>
>> In Squeak I have.
>>
>> ttr := [
>>  1 to: ((m rowCount) -500) do: [:i || row rowSum rowMax rowMin 
>> rowMedian rowAverage |
>>  row := (m atRows: i to: (499+i) columns: 5 to: 5).
>>  rowSum := row sum.
>>  rowMax := row max.
>>  rowMin := row min.
>>  rowMedian := row median.
>>  rowAverage := row average.
>>  omd add: {rowSum . rowMax . rowMin . rowMedian . rowAverage}]] 
>> timeToRun.
>>
>> Squeak:  17 seconds,  with Cog 4.2 seconds  (nice work guys 
>> (Eliot/Teleplace)
>
> This code can be implemented a lot more efficiently. 
> #atRows:to:columns:to: creates a new matrix, but that can be avoided.
> #sum, #max, #min, #median and #average iterate over the row. What's 
> worse, #median sorts the row. These can be elimated too.
> The total runtime cost is: O((r - w) * (w + w * log(w))), which is O(m 
> * w * log(w)) if m >> w, which is true in your case. (r is the number 
> of rows, w is the window size (500 in your example)).
> This can be reduced to m*log(w) which is 500x speedup (in theory, 
> ignoring constatns) in your case.
>
> The idea is to store the intermediate results. The sum (and average) 
> only require a single variable which stores the sum of the window. 
> Then substract the element getting out of the window and add the new 
> element getting in the window and you got the new sum and average. 
> Min, max and median are a bit more tricky, but a balanced binary tree 
> handle them. Calculating min and max in a balanced tree requires 
> O(log(n)) time (which is O(log(w)) in your case). Adding and removing 
> 1-1 elements also require O(log(w)) time. For median, you have to find 
> the node of the median of the first 500 elements at the beginning. 
> When an element is removed or added to the tree, the median will be 
> the same, the next or the previous element in the tree, depending on 
> the median, the added/removed element and the size of the tree. This 
> can be handled in O(log(w)) time.
>
> For a matrix with 10000 rows and 5 columns of random floats your code 
> takes 5.5 seconds with Cog. Using a temp for sum and average and a 
> tree for min and max (without the median, because it requires a 
> special tree implementation) it takes ~35ms. That's 157x speedup.
>
> Levente

Hello Levente,

I am not surprised that I may not have the most efficient 
implementation. I understand what you are saying in principle, but I 
don't understand how to implement what you are saying. Can you provide 
an example doing what I did in the manner you describe. I would greatly 
appreciate it. I would then run it against my data for  a test.

The above was simply an example. I have many more methods which I've 
implemented which are doing a variety of moving averages and such. To my 
understanding, Squeak doesn't have the library of statistical methods at 
this time. That would be one nice thing that could be done when Numpy 
becomes a C lib and can be interfaced to from Squeak.

I appreciate your comment above. I would really like to see Squeak out 
perform some of the alternatives. :)

Thanks.

Jimmie



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