[squeak-dev] Re: [Election] Candidate list with 11 candidates is final, 6 days until election starts!

Chris Muller asqueaker at gmail.com
Fri Mar 5 23:48:00 UTC 2010

Hi Miguel, you have been down this road before with the folks here.
You seem to be terribly interested in Squeak's direction and future.
Thank you for that!  Respectfully, instead of highlighting the
differences in our approaches, I would be more interested in hearing
your thoughts about the part of Squeak that interests you, and how we
might help the Pharo team achieve harvestation.

Imagine the (oh so remote  :) possibility, that even a
positive-feedback loop could form; whereby Pharo's harvestation of the
interesting part(s) of Squeak, facilitated Squeak to harvest back the
modularized/enhanced version for itself.

Cherry-picking these "interesting" bits back and forth, while
maintaining each our individual core-missions, could end resulting in
both communities going further.

Kind Regards,

2010/3/5 Miguel Enrique Cobá Martinez <miguel.coba at gmail.com>:
> El vie, 05-03-2010 a las 23:14 +0100, Michael Haupt escribió:
>> Miguel,
>> Am 05.03.2010 um 22:04 schrieb Miguel Enrique Cobá Martinez <miguel.coba at gmail.co
>> m>:
>> >> Seriously, I see your point, and I think we agree that it really
>> >> boils
>> >> down to interest.
>> >
>> > Exactly. And that is precisely the issue that Pharo is solving. Squeak
>> > don't give a cent about other uses outside of educational ones.
>> that is nonsense.
> Oh yes? Well, what is Etoys? From the squeakland page:
> Etoys is . . .
>      * an educational tool for teaching children powerful ideas in
>        compelling ways
>      * a media-rich authoring environment and visual programming system
>      * a free software program that works on almost all personal
>        computers
> First than anything "educational tool".
> Then Squeak refuses to remove Etoys from base image, even is in process
> the update and resync of Etoys with upstream squeakland code.
> If the board refuses to remove etoys that is for me that they have a
> preference for the educational use of squeak than the commercial use of
> squeak.
> Is that non-sense?
> --
> Miguel Cobá
> http://miguel.leugim.com.mx

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