[squeak-dev] Re: [Esug-list] Re: [Seaside] re: [vwnc] More news
about GSoC!!! Some Idea
michel.tilman at telenet.be
Wed Mar 10 09:03:34 UTC 2010
It depends very much on what you want the statistics for in the first place: business reasons, auditing, performance reasons, ... WebSphere for instance has a set of tools for monitoring sessions, request timings, thread, connection and whatever other pools they have, CPU usage, garbage collection statistics, but maybe this is not what you want. Also interesting would be statistics and tools that allow you to analyze the impact of one application on another running on the same VM.
On 09 Mar 2010, at 09:42, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
> Good idea. Write the proposal and send it to me :)
> In addition, I think you could demonsrtrate why it makes sense for example, to have stats within the framework. The GSoC is done with AidaWeb and yesterdays Janko told me there is a stats page automatically done where you can see the requests, see where it cames from....etc...it was could...but I think the key point is: is that better than just use google analythics ? what are the advantages ? because maybe it doesn't make sense to reivent the wheel. Probably there are reasons, as AidaWeb did it....but remarking them and explaining why having a statics package in the framework can be better that google analythics.
> Just my opinion.
> On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Julian Fitzell <jfitzell at gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes. Administrative tools for Seaside would be an excellent project.
> On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Maarten MOSTERT
> <maarten.mostert at wanadoo.fr> wrote:
> > Mariano,
> > This is a very good initiative !
> > I don't think what other peoples opinion is about this, but personnally I would appreciate if the base of Seaside
> > had some integrated statistics tools, registration of certain actions, info aout sessions etc.
> > Just an idea..
> > @+Maarten,
> >> Message du 09/03/10 01:13
> >> De : "Mariano Martinez Peck"
> >> A : "Pharo Development"
> > , "The general-purpose Squeak developers list"
> > , "ESUG Members" , "Seaside - general discussion"
> > , "AIDA/Web general discussion list" , help-smalltalk at gnu.org,
> > vwnc at cs.uiuc.edu, beta at seaside.gemstone.com
> >> Copie à :
> >> Objet : [vwnc] More news about GSoC!!!
> >> Hi folks. We have been working hard with Janko and we built a website for
> >> the GSoC 2010 and for future editions!
> >> The URL is http://gsoc2010.esug.org/
> >> In 4 days, is the deadline to submit ESUG as mentoring organization. For
> >> that purpose, there are several questions that we need to answer, as you can
> >> read here:
> >> http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/faqs#org_app
> >> This is the most important step. If we get selected, then we have project,
> >> and we will have to vote which projects to select and finally select
> >> students...but all that is ONLY if we are selected as mentoring
> >> organization. Last year Squeak wasn't so this year will be hard. We really
> >> appreciate any feedback you can give us so that we can achieve this goal.
> >> Basically we should demonstrate that we have a big community, with several
> >> interesting projects and with mentors and students that are willing to do
> >> it.
> >> Our first version of those answer are here:
> >> http://gsoc2010.esug.org/application.html
> >> Please, send feedback.
> >> The ideas page is necessary. For this, it would be cool to have several
> >> projects. With this we can show that the community is big. Of course, we
> >> cannot put projects that has no sense. But don't be shy to submit. We are
> >> ALL smalltalk dialects and even Newspeak. Right now there are 13 projects
> >> but I think there can be much more. In squeak 2007 there were like 20, and
> >> now we are all dialects together. Note that a project doesn't need to be
> >> cross dialect. You can propose a project that apply only to one dialect.
> >> I cannot take the time to write each proposal...so, if you have a project,
> >> right the title, description, technical details, benefits to the student and
> >> benefits to the community. Otherwise will be probably ignored.
> >> It would be cool to have all mentors already selected for the 12th so that
> >> we can demonstrate that we are really willing to do it and that we already
> >> have mentors for all projects. Even more, it would be fantastic if there can
> >> be mentors or co-mentors.
> >> As you can see in the ideas link, there are ideas that are not even
> >> complete. No text. Again...if someone want to do it, excellent. Otherwise,
> >> they will have to be removed.
> >> Now...a personal question...do you think we have enough students to take
> >> care about the projects? what is your opinion ?
> >> That's all for the moment...please, if you have questions, just ASK!!!
> >> 4 days.....
> >> Cheers
> >> Mariano
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