[squeak-dev] Re: [Seaside] Google Summer Of Code 2010 news!!!

stan shepherd stan.shepherd414 at gmail.com
Wed Mar 10 14:08:58 UTC 2010

I know the deadline approaches, however- how does the community feel
about a project to implement a real demonstration system (along the
lines of defunct Sushi store)? Presumably in Seaside, but whichever
framework the community/mentor/student decided on. With a nice
interface using (again presumptively) jQueryUI to give a pleasant
end-user experience. Similarly implementing a persistence solution.
The idea is to present potential newcomers to Smalltalk with a viable
stack that could be picked up as is, to give a starting point for
developing web applications. Potentially they could simply make a
hosted copy, on the same server.

The idea would be that on the various examples page, you could access
an e-commerce site running a Smalltalk technology stack. Ideally
really selling something Smalltalk related, (proceeds to eg ESUG),
maybe also an Amazon affiliate page . If you liked it, you could copy
the whole project, change eg your Paypal details, change your
products, and be in business. (Obviously there are real world
considerations - this is the concept). And coders looking for examples
would see code that was fully completed, not onClick: (... some alert
saying you clicked but no real example of how to handle it, eg how to
transfer the order line details to the payments server).

I think it would do wonders for the take-up of Smalltalk.

If people like the idea in general, I'm happy to write up the brief. I
don't think i'm the right person for the mentor, but you know who you
are ;)

For the student, they would get experience in implementing the
application itself , as well as assembling the stack. They could be
the next Auctomatic founders.

Do people think it's useful for me to develop a proposal?

Cheers,   ..Stan

PS I realise that picking a component as part of the stack is fraught
with possibilities of offending supporters of an alternative project.
But more Smalltalkers overall means more potential users of each

On 6 March 2010 12:04, Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi smalltalkers. I have been asked to be the admin of GSoC 2010. The backup
> or second admin is Janko Mivšek. As you may know, Squeak has participated in
> GSoC 2007, 2008 but failed (not accepted) in 2009. We are not sure if we
> will succeed this year but we will try to do as much as possible.
> We think that one of the most important reasons why we failed in 2009 is
> that Google was looking for bigger communities that Squeak. This is why this
> year we all go under the ESUG umbrella. We present ESUG as the mentor
> organization and we cover ALL open-source Smalltalk dialects, not only
> Squeak. Pharo, Smalltalk/X, GNU Smalltalk, Cuis..they are all invited to
> participate. Also cross platform projects like Seaside, AidaWeb, Magma, etc
> are welcome.
> <forThoseWhoDoesntKnowWhatGSoCIs>
> It is a Google program that support (money) students to work on different
> open-source projects. Google doesn't talk or manage directly to the students
> but trough "Mentoring Organisations". Those organizations have to apply to
> GSoC. They have to give a lot of information, included a list of
> ideas/projects. Each project has a description and a mentor. Then the
> students apply for each project. If the organization gets selected by Google
> they will tell you how many "slots" they give. Suppose they give 5 but we
> have 20 projects....then we vote and the most voted projects win. The
> student has to do the project and the mentor has to help and guide him. The
> mentor receives 500 USD and the student 4500USD.
> For more information read: http://code.google.com/soc/
> </forThoseWhoDoesntKnowWhatGSoCIs>
> The most important thing is the deadlines we have. We started late so we are
> very near to the first deadline which is 12/03/2010 (less than one week).
> For that deadline we need to submit all the information of the mentor
> organization (answering several questions) and give the list of
> ideas/projects and the mentors of that.
> We have created a webpage (Thanks Janko!!) where we will put all the
> information. We will make this page public soon (we still need to review a
> couple of things).
> But for the moment we would REALLY appreciate if tell us your ideas. To do
> this, just answer to this email. Then we will collect the information and
> put in the website. For each idea you need:  a short title and a paragraph
> (for the moment) explaining the idea.
> After, we need that the people that are willing to be mentors start to apply
> as mentors...please, consider yourself being mentor. Sometimes it is not
> that difficult. I mean, don't be shy as sometimes being helpful, being aware
> of the dates, answering emails, etc is more important than the Smalltalk
> knoweldege. We can have a lot of ideas, but we need also mentors for that.
> We even would need a "substitute" for each mentor...
> Just as an example you can see the ideas of the previous years:
> 2007: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/5936
> 2008: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6031
> 2009: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6120
> That's all for the moment.
> Cheers
> Mariano
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