[squeak-dev] Re: [Pharo-project] [Seaside] Google Summer Of Code
stephane.ducasse at inria.fr
Wed Mar 10 16:31:12 UTC 2010
On Mar 10, 2010, at 3:08 PM, stan shepherd wrote:
> I know the deadline approaches, however- how does the community feel
> about a project to implement a real demonstration system (along the
> lines of defunct Sushi store)? Presumably in Seaside, but whichever
> framework the community/mentor/student decided on. With a nice
> interface using (again presumptively) jQueryUI to give a pleasant
> end-user experience. Similarly implementing a persistence solution.
> The idea is to present potential newcomers to Smalltalk with a viable
> stack that could be picked up as is, to give a starting point for
> developing web applications. Potentially they could simply make a
> hosted copy, on the same server.
In the same vein having a good support for stupid applications
like my comix collection, our bibtext management system,
all the applications
display in list
display in report
a stuff or a list of stuff.
> The idea would be that on the various examples page, you could access
> an e-commerce site running a Smalltalk technology stack. Ideally
> really selling something Smalltalk related, (proceeds to eg ESUG),
> maybe also an Amazon affiliate page . If you liked it, you could copy
> the whole project, change eg your Paypal details, change your
> products, and be in business. (Obviously there are real world
> considerations - this is the concept). And coders looking for examples
> would see code that was fully completed, not onClick: (... some alert
> saying you clicked but no real example of how to handle it, eg how to
> transfer the order line details to the payments server).
> I think it would do wonders for the take-up of Smalltalk.
> If people like the idea in general, I'm happy to write up the brief. I
> don't think i'm the right person for the mentor, but you know who you
> are ;)
> For the student, they would get experience in implementing the
> application itself , as well as assembling the stack. They could be
> the next Auctomatic founders.
> Do people think it's useful for me to develop a proposal?
> Cheers, ..Stan
> PS I realise that picking a component as part of the stack is fraught
> with possibilities of offending supporters of an alternative project.
> But more Smalltalkers overall means more potential users of each
> On 6 March 2010 12:04, Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi smalltalkers. I have been asked to be the admin of GSoC 2010. The backup
>> or second admin is Janko Mivšek. As you may know, Squeak has participated in
>> GSoC 2007, 2008 but failed (not accepted) in 2009. We are not sure if we
>> will succeed this year but we will try to do as much as possible.
>> We think that one of the most important reasons why we failed in 2009 is
>> that Google was looking for bigger communities that Squeak. This is why this
>> year we all go under the ESUG umbrella. We present ESUG as the mentor
>> organization and we cover ALL open-source Smalltalk dialects, not only
>> Squeak. Pharo, Smalltalk/X, GNU Smalltalk, Cuis..they are all invited to
>> participate. Also cross platform projects like Seaside, AidaWeb, Magma, etc
>> are welcome.
>> It is a Google program that support (money) students to work on different
>> open-source projects. Google doesn't talk or manage directly to the students
>> but trough "Mentoring Organisations". Those organizations have to apply to
>> GSoC. They have to give a lot of information, included a list of
>> ideas/projects. Each project has a description and a mentor. Then the
>> students apply for each project. If the organization gets selected by Google
>> they will tell you how many "slots" they give. Suppose they give 5 but we
>> have 20 projects....then we vote and the most voted projects win. The
>> student has to do the project and the mentor has to help and guide him. The
>> mentor receives 500 USD and the student 4500USD.
>> For more information read: http://code.google.com/soc/
>> The most important thing is the deadlines we have. We started late so we are
>> very near to the first deadline which is 12/03/2010 (less than one week).
>> For that deadline we need to submit all the information of the mentor
>> organization (answering several questions) and give the list of
>> ideas/projects and the mentors of that.
>> We have created a webpage (Thanks Janko!!) where we will put all the
>> information. We will make this page public soon (we still need to review a
>> couple of things).
>> But for the moment we would REALLY appreciate if tell us your ideas. To do
>> this, just answer to this email. Then we will collect the information and
>> put in the website. For each idea you need: a short title and a paragraph
>> (for the moment) explaining the idea.
>> After, we need that the people that are willing to be mentors start to apply
>> as mentors...please, consider yourself being mentor. Sometimes it is not
>> that difficult. I mean, don't be shy as sometimes being helpful, being aware
>> of the dates, answering emails, etc is more important than the Smalltalk
>> knoweldege. We can have a lot of ideas, but we need also mentors for that.
>> We even would need a "substitute" for each mentor...
>> Just as an example you can see the ideas of the previous years:
>> 2007: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/5936
>> 2008: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6031
>> 2009: http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6120
>> That's all for the moment.
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