[squeak-dev] GSoC idea: Brainstorming portal for better community decision process

Gary Dunn osp at aloha.com
Fri Mar 12 16:20:51 UTC 2010

On Thu, 2010-03-11 at 13:45 +0100, Janko Mivšek wrote:
> > 2010/3/11 Janko Mivšek <janko.mivsek at eranova.si>:
> >> Dear Smalltalkers,
> >>
> >> Becasue we have quite some problems in a community with seeking a
> >> consensus on important questions, from organization ones and on, I came
> >> to idea to build a tool for help. And a GSoC project can be an ideal
> >> opportunity to build such a tool. What do you think?
> >>
> >> Here is a description:
> >>
> >> Brainstorming portal for better community decision process
> >> ==========================================================
> >>
> >> Create a web portal for brainstorming sessions/meetings to get ideas and
> >> answers to important questions in Smalltalk community. Portal should
> >> allow on-line to:
> >>
> >>   1. brainstorm the ideas
> >>   2. vote to get-out the best ideas
> >>   3. seek consensus
> >>   4. analyze - report

> On 11. 03. 2010 12:30, Ian Trudel wrote:
> > I like your idea. Have you considered the very same idea but
> > implemented as as a client-server within Squeak rather than a portal?
> Thanks! Not yet, but I see an easy extension of this idea to the GUI
> client later.
> > Accessibility is certainly important and this system could be a good
> > Seaside application. However, I am inclined to believe that it would
> > have a greater collateral impact if it was something used within
> > Squeak on both sides. We should want people spend as much time as
> > possible within Squeak to create a unique opportunity to bring new
> > features, correct bugs, etc. "It's right under your nose" style. This
> > would not be the same as a server side application.
> Yes, for some low level technical brainstorming for sure. But idea of
> this portal is broader: to cover also brainstorming about organizational
> questions (like those right now in Squeak community), general ideas for
> new projects, etc etc. On this level a web browser is for sure your
> preferred client.

I think both of these viewpoints are correct. For this specific app I
agree with Ian, that it should be written as a client/server app in
Squeak. This would be very close to my concept of the core technology
for OSP, the Super Chalk Board. I had not considered anonymity, but I
have seen such brainstorming tools used in the military. They were a fad
about ten years ago but I never hear about them any more, so might not
have been effective. Simple to implement.


At the same time we cannot be writing "an app for that" for everything
that comes along. And, to play with others we need a good web browser.
Problem: hard to implement in Squeak. My proposed work-around: the X11
Display Morph.


Gary Dunn, Honolulu
osp at aloha.com
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