[squeak-dev] [Squeak 4.0] Last Call

Levente Uzonyi leves at elte.hu
Mon Mar 15 05:00:13 UTC 2010


On Sun, 14 Mar 2010, Ken G. Brown wrote:

> Ok, I agree as well that the release might be better closer to the current state.
> Another option I suppose would be to match the unofficial releases on the ftp site now, like so:

These are just snapshots, not releases. There are more of them in the 
obsolete directory if you're interested in them.

>
> Squeak-4.01 = Squeak3.11-8472-alpha.zip
> 4.02 = Squeak3.11-8720-alpha.zip
> 4.03 = Squeak3.11-8931-alpha.zip
> 4.04 = Squeak3.11-9371-alpha.zip
> 4.05 = Squeak3.11-9622-alpha.zip
>
> Not sure what to do with Squeak3.11-9622-core.zip
>
> Perhaps there needs to be a Squeak-4.x as well as a Squeak-Core-4.x

All of these images are history. As you probably know, when 4.0 is out, we 
will replay the trunk changes based on the 4.0 release. This will become 
the new Trunk image which will be license clean. Soon after that we will 
freeze the features. At that point we will concentrate on bugfixes, tests 
and documentation. If we are ready with that, we will create a release 
candidate. If no new issues will occur we will release 4.1, otherwise 
further release candidates may come before 4.1. 4.1 will have a Core 
release too and probably others (like Full).


Levente

>
> Ken G. Brown
>
> At 5:05 AM +0100 3/15/10, Levente Uzonyi apparently wrote:
>> On Sun, 14 Mar 2010, Ken G. Brown wrote:
>>
>>> I don't understand the -1.
>>> Does it refer to freezing at 9371? Or the 'reconsider'?
>>
>> Freezing.
>>
>>>
>>> ie do you mean you would prefer freezing at an update closer than three hundred and ten updates behind? Like maybe the latest unofficial release =
>>> Squeak3.11-9622-alpha.zip?
>>>
>>
>> I want to fix/enhance a few more things.
>>
>>
>> Levente
>>
>>> Ken G. Brown
>>>
>>>
>>> At 4:30 AM +0200 3/15/10, Igor Stasenko apparently wrote:
>>>> On 15 March 2010 04:00, Levente Uzonyi <leves at elte.hu> wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 14 Mar 2010, Ken G. Brown wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> You might want to reconsider freezing at update 9371.
>>>>>
>>>>> A big -1 from me.
>>>>>
>>>> -1 too.
>>>> It reminds me a turtle and sprinter paradox.
>>>> The turtle started first, and were able to crawl half way to finish.
>>>> Sprinter runs much faster than turtle, but once he run half the way to
>>>> finish, a turtle
>>>> were able to crawl a bit more. To match with turtle, a sprinter needs
>>>> also to run this distance,
>>>> but while he takes time to run it, a turtle crawls forward a bit more,
>>>> and so on, so on.
>>>> So, we can make a conclusion: no matter how fast a sprinter runs, he
>>>> can't catch up with turtle :)
>>>>
>>>>> Levente
>>>>>
>>>>>> This is already 310 updates behind the latest when I checked today.
>>>>>> That is: three hundred and ten updates behind. Not version 3.10.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Seems to me like a lot to be behind when doing a release.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ken G. Brown
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At 5:08 AM -0200 3/14/10, Edgar J. De Cleene apparently wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have  some questions for Board.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What is the life cycle of 4.0 ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The people in charge bother for update until the Closures enters to
>>>>>>> system
>>>>>>> as I beg tons of times for 3.10 and of course don't was listen ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When I could start 4.1 ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What the schedule for 4.1?
>>>>>>> My idea is go to 9371 update and frooze.
>>>>>>> Rip all know bugs and try to get green all test.
>>>>>>> This is coordination .
>>>>>>> All CoreDevelopers should take serious the quality of the release.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Begin to play together if we want win the 2010 Season to the Pharo car
>>>>>>> !!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You have the talent and the only way I stop bothering all is when all
>>>>>>> test
>>>>>>> go green and no obscure thing breaks the "car" Squeak 4dot1.image
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Edgar
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Igor Stasenko AKA sig.
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