[squeak-dev] Re: Alien vs. FFI benchmarks (Re: Trying to load
ALienOpenGL into 4.1 alpha...)
andreas.raab at gmx.de
Thu Mar 25 16:35:44 UTC 2010
On 3/25/2010 9:04 AM, Igor Stasenko wrote:
>> drawable := OpenGLSurface newIn: (0 at 0 corner: 10 at 10).
>> ogl := AlienOpenGLLibrary uniqueInstance.
>> alienMethod := ogl alienMethodNamed: 'glGetError'.
>> time := [1 to: 1000000 do:[:i|
>> error := GLEnum new.
>> alienMethod primFFICallResult: error.
>> ]] timeToRun.
>> drawable close.
> i don't know how to load this code, could you put
> error := GLEnum new. out of block and run it again?
No, because you're returning it and you can't share error code instances
(it's like saying that something that Point>>z:y: should just return the
same point for each call :-) It's fine to cache the call that way since
it's internal to the library but not for the return value.
> It is expected to see that marshalling/converting types takes most of the time,
> while rest should be same, because it straightforward: push arguments,
> make a call and return result.
> So, at some cases (not at all), one could prepare arguments and return
> value holder and then use it
> in calls, avoiding allocating& converting them each time.
But what you call "preparing arguments and return value holder and then
use it" is marshalling. Moving it into the caller doesn't actually make
it faster. And how much time do you want to spend optimizing your use of
callout facilities vs. actually writing the app?
> For instance, when you passing a string (char*),
> one may use a CString object (a null-terminated String), and pass it
> into Alien without conversion,
> while FFI allocates a null-terminated strings on heap, copying String
> contents to that buffer and then using them as arguments to a
The FFI can do the same but it's mostly pointless. If you have a Squeak
string you can convert it to a C string (ExternalData) and pass it into
an FFI call.
> So its hard to say, which way is better.
There's no doubt in my mind. Absolutely nobody is going to spend time
optimizing their callout interface manually. They use the stuff that's
there. Go look at AlienOpenGL. Go look at Newspeak. That's your answer
right there. I have still to see a single example of a (non-contrived)
usage of Alien that's faster than the equivalent (non-contrived) FFI call.
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