[squeak-dev] Re: Hello squeakers

stephane ducasse stephane.ducasse at gmail.com
Sat Mar 27 12:10:56 UTC 2010

> Hi Stef -
> Thank you for your kind words. I'm glad that we all seem to be ready to leave the past behind us and move on into the future. I fully understand (and appreciate) your decision to fork Pharo and I have most definitely no objections to its direction and goals.
> Talking about goals, I think there's a lot of overlap here. We all want a small system, a cool system, a clean system, a fast system, an innovative system. So there is a good number of things where we could and should work together. And obviously, we all appreciate the numerous contributions to both Squeak and Pharo; neither system would be where it is without the contributions from the community.

I thought that squeak would have something to say on the multimedia level, because it seems that we will redo the same in the quest of a clean kernel
but this is life. 

> How a more effective sharing might look like is a bit open to me though. I spend most of last week thinking about what kind of setup could serve both projects (this is what delayed my reply in the other conversation) in a way that doesn't require either side to make unacceptable compromises but unfortunately I drew a blank here.
> It seems to me that neither Squeak nor Pharo are yet at a point where it could sensibly (i.e., without needlessly increasing the burden of the contributors) utilize a straightforward sharing mechanism. Any meaningful ideas would be welcome.
> Perhaps a better way to go about it might be to identify important non-core packages that we both intend to support and convince their maintainers to keep an open and inclusive attitude. For example, having Filesystem and Xtreams available in both projects might be a good start.
> Other than that, let me remind you that Squeak has an open contribution process and that many Pharo developers, including you, Markus, Adrian, Michael, Lukas and many more have been invited to be part of the core-developers group of Squeak.  All of you received an invitation to participate and improve Squeak when the trunk was initiated. The invitation is still open.
> Cheers,
>  - Andreas

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