[squeak-dev] stdio support

Bert Freudenberg bert at freudenbergs.de
Thu Nov 4 11:13:57 UTC 2010

On 04.11.2010, at 00:56, David T. Lewis wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 03, 2010 at 06:15:01PM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
>> On 03.11.2010, at 17:41, blake wrote:
>>> Could any of this result in, say, an implementation of Curses or a curses-like text output?
>> It wouldn't magically "result" in that, no. But you could built one. However, since you could have done that using OSProcess for many years, it's not more likely to happen. Who needs curses anyway nowadays? The space between command line utilities and full-blown graphical UIs is drying up ...
> Supporting curses (or or vi or emacs...) requires a pty interface
> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudo_terminal) as well as some layer
> of terminal emulation (e.g. ansi terminal). Ian Piumarta implemented
> both of these in his "telnet" package many years ago. I don't have a
> link handy, but it appears on SqueakMap.
> If anyone is seriously interested in this, you should definitely take
> Ian's work as a starting point.
> Ian suggested adding the pty part to OSProcess, though I never took
> the time to do it. To be honest, I doubt there is any real demand for
> this nowadays.
> Dave

I thought Blake wanted to do the reverse. Not run a curses app inside Squeak, but make a curses UI for a Squeak app. Is there something in Ian's package to help with this?

- Bert -

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