[squeak-dev] VSE - my personal view on the topic
Frank Lesser
frank-lesser at lesser-software.com
Fri Sep 3 07:55:31 UTC 2010
Most companies using VSE have developed & enhanced their frameworks over the
time since VSE was declared moribund.
To move such an application which is in most cases a Windows GUI based
application requiring deep OS-Integration to a different Smalltalk dialect
is technically very difficult.
The alternative to get a VSE-application updated would be to obtain a
license for our LSW Virtual-Machine. We do not license our LSW
Vision-Smalltalk. LSWVST is running on our latest VM but the efforts
migrating a complex Windows-Smalltalk application to an entirely different
Smalltalk framework is not feasible & we want to concentrate as a small
company on developing & marinating our VM.
Running a VSE application on our VM requires very few changes.
To be legally save you need be a VSE licensee.
I don't think that it makes sense for Cincom to try to stop VSE-customers to
use a different VM for existing VSE-applications.
Actually our VM helps Cincom to sell VSE-licenses. Cincom is a huge company
& while some managers can try to tell their customers some things - I see
that - for me relevant people at Cincom do the right thing mentioning our
product in public & as a side effect promoting it.
While I personally disliked the idea to open-source VSE or any other
commercial Smalltalk, I also see the drive of companies demanding it.
Companies have obtained the VSE-VM source in the past & where only able to
do marginal changes as to correct small bugs & extending the FFI.
I doubt that VM-developers (except one I know) in those companies are able
to develop it further (e.g. produce a 64-bit version or move to a different
platform or processor architecture).
Also patching & reverse-engineering VSE is the poor-companies way & is IMO
also irrelevant for Cincom because they could not expect any business from
those people.
People who are posting VM-bugs (hoping that VSE hackers provide free
patches) and at the same time complaining ijn public that Cincom do not
provide them with a corrected VM are probably not paying Cincom for it.
There are free alternatives if Windows GUI integration isn't required - for
Squeak & its friends exists now a more powerful faster VM - the COG-VM.
And IMO it is a sane state for the Smalltalk-community in the whole that
commercial & free alternatives exist.
Alejandro F. Reimondo - a well known Smalltalk-specialist (especially in the
VSE area) has joined us a few years ago - & is helping companies to prepare
their products to run on our VM.
The VSE-VM has not being developed since a decade - we have developed our VM
since more than a decade and are actively developing it not only to run
Smalltalk dialects.
So companies which want to obtain a license for using our VM are invited to
contact us.
Frank Lesser, Lesser-Software
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