[squeak-dev] Box-Admins Team needs a new leader and/or we need a new way

Casey Ransberger casey.obrien.r at gmail.com
Thu Feb 3 22:24:41 UTC 2011

I'd consider it as well if the role was well defined and Ken et al were willing to provide some back up while I ramp up on ops stuff. My whole world has revolved around software development on UNIX, so I'm at least familiar with the environment, and I spent some time working with the architects at WhitePages.com, so I'm at least somewhat hip to issues/solutions of scale (not that we'd need much in the way of scale just yet!)

I do agree with Ken that we should consider unloading some of the burden. I think there are lots of free services out there that can provide a better level of service than we can in many cases, and I don't think control-for-controls sake makes sense. 

On Feb 3, 2011, at 12:22 PM, "Ken Causey" <ken at kencausey.com> wrote:

> Perhaps you've forgotten or didn't notice but I tried to resign as the
> Box-Admins Team Leader more than a year ago:
> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2010-January/143901.html
> Since that time I have simply done what I felt was necessary to maintain
> the status quo.  I have neither the time nor interest in making large
> changes to our hosting infrastructure.
> The reality is that I'm an OK system administrator but a terrible
> manager, and I haven't found anyone willing and capable to take over or
> assist in any significant way.  I suspect that we don't have very many
> people in this community with system administration experience and
> willingness and time to do the work.
> As a community I think we really need to think hard about how we want to
> move forward regarding the services we use within the community.  I've
> always been a strong proponent of 'eating our own dogfood' but we've
> done very little in the last year or two progressing and even
> significantly maintaining our own services infrastructure.  
> I suggest we strongly considered leveraging managed services in the vein
> of github, Google code, etc.  I simply don't see that we have the will
> to manage these services ourselves in the immediate future.
> I can continue as I have been for a while, but we can't continue like
> this forever.  I just don't have the interest in doing this work anymore
> beyond what is absolutely necessary.
> Ken Causey

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