Mr. Lewis,

My deepest apologies. Please forgive me. I wrote him directly, and he CC'd the entire world. I was afraid, so I made the experience public. It was a selfish self-defense tactic, and you are absolutely correct: I am guilty as charged with regard to having brought garbage onto the lists. 

Yeah, may as well CC the whole world on this one too: 

I'm sorry, everyone. 

On Jun 1, 2011, at 5:55 AM, "David T. Lewis" <lewis at mail.msen.com> wrote:

> <off list>
> 
> Casey, this message is completely inappropriate. It is personal, it is
> insulting, and there should be no place for it any of these forums. It
> also reflects very badly on the rest of the Squeak community. Please
> keep this stuff off the mailing lists.
> 
> Dave
> 
> On Wed, Jun 01, 2011 at 04:01:33AM -0700, Casey Ransberger wrote:
>> Inline
>> 
>> On Jun 1, 2011, at 2:35 AM, St??phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse at inria.fr> wrote:
>> 
>>> Dear Casey
>>> 
>>>> So, are you done with whatever crap you had to do with the French military?
>>> 
>>> This is not crap. Sorry but this is the security of our institute and its services.
>>> Non inria people cannot log on INRIA servers. This is the rule.  I forgot to let you know.
>> 
>> I paid respect to you and that at the time. You told me to wait, and I did, but I'm done waiting on you. You said you'd get back to me, but clearly I was not important enough to you for you to keep your word. 
>> 
>>> 
>>>> Can I get started on CI for Squeak now?
>>> 
>>> I do not think so because nobody from our team has the time for that. 
>> 
>> I kind of have to wonder if you didn't think you were posting on the Pharo list when you replied (I imagine, half awake) to my message to squeak-dev. 
>> 
>> I must have gotten confused and thought I should listen to you. 
>> 
>>>> Are you at liberty to explain why you chose to block my work over a local governmental issue that shouldn't concern the Squeak community or any of its efforts in the least?
>>> 
>>> I think that your sentence above is a bit out of concern. 
>>> I did not block anything. Now why do you think that the squeak community could pretend anything on us?
>> 
>> You asked me to wait, and you're the president of ESUG or something, so I waited for you like a good dog. 
>> 
>>>> I'm not French and frankly I'm a bit livid that I've been waiting on you and the French government for this long: no government should ever stall open source work. 
>>> 
>>> This is not the point.
>> 
>> What's the point then, sir? I'm dying to know what it is. 
>> 
>>>> I'm a bit confused by the month of silence I've gotten out of you.
>>> 
>>> I have a life too and not doing pharo all the time. I have been promoted and I have a lot more duties. 
>> 
>> Oh, right you're busy. I think I mentioned quite a lot of respect for the work you're doing in my first messages to you: did you read them?
>> 
>>>> Aren't you the president of ESUG or something? Don't you have an obligation to unblock people in the Smalltalk community or does that responsibility only extend to Pharo in your mind?
>>> 
>>> I really do not like the contents and implication of the sentence above. 
>>> I did probably more to squeak than you and from that I imagine that people should respect me. 
>>> I did more to Smalltalk than people over the last 10 years so if you do not realize that, think about it. 
>> 
>> I am not implying anything. I asked you a few pretty direct questions, and you're avoiding answering them in a very passive-aggressive way, which is kind of difficult to get behind. 
>> 
>> As far as your illustrious work with Smalltalk, are you referencing the crap traits implementation or the actual act of dividing our community in half? 
>> 
>> Alan Kay doesn't seem to have a hell of a lot of problems with answering my questions in a timely manner, and he isn't running ESUG, so at this point, after slogging through the harder, more rigorous route to an MIT license, I kind of have to wonder what your real problem actually is. 
>> 
>> 
>>>> Seriously, man, what the hell?
>>> 
>>> Seriously I strongly suggest you not to insult me because I do not like that.
>> 
>> I'm not insulting you. I'm calling you out into the midway, sir. There's a difference. 
>> 
>> Come out and dance if you know how sir, elsewise get the hell off the stage. 
>> 
>>> Stef
>>>