S, info at tomsik.cz piše:
> I am no squeak/pharo/cuis master,
> 
> but in my opinion the best approach is still "objects as servers"
>  - no matter what html6 will be able to do, it won't be enough.
> 
> however html5+js means we can leverage ajax - and provide illusion
> of objects as servers - and that's cool.
> 
> so:
> 
> 1. yes
> 2. not sure, I'd rather spend energy on something different.

Remember that we the web guys are spending energy close to that goal for
quite a while already. The Iliad/Aida (bit less Seaside) component model
is close to what Morphic is, as far I know Morphic. And with Jtalk we
can cover JavaScript from Smalltalk code too.

Add the open-source and portable WebKit [1] based foundation like many
web browsers have and we are there! So, if we point ourselves to this
direction, for sure someone will come with a courage to experiment in
approximately this way:

- WebKit based foundation
- Iliad/Aida component model adopted to Morphic on top
- Jtalk for running JavaScript from Smalltalk
- Squeak/Pharo image with more or less unchanged tools

So, we switch one level higher in running Squeak/Pharo GUI: from bare
operating system's graphic/windowing support to WebKit based
HTML5/CSS/JavaScript one. With HTML5 Canvas and WebGL for HW optimized
graphics,...

Janko

[1] http://www.webkit.org/


> On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 13:41:45 +0200, Janko Mivšek
> <janko.mivsek at eranova.si> wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>>
>> In light of recent Microsoft surprising U-turn announcement [1] that in
>> Windows 8 it swithes to HTML5 (HTML5+CSS+JavaScript) instead of .NET+WPF
>> and Silverlight for desktop app development it is IMO a right time to
>> think about:
>>
>> 1. is this a clear signal that HTML5 for ALL apps, both desktop and the
>>    web is inevitable?
>> 2. is this a clear signal that we need to rebuild Morphic on top of
>>    HTML+CSS, to leverage all Morphic advantages and come back
>>    to bleeding edge again?
>>
>> I think yes. What Squeak/Pharo/Cuis GUI masters say?
>>
>> Best regards
>> Janko
>>
>> [1]
>> http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2011/06/html5-centric-windows-8-leaves-microsoft-developers-horrified.ars
>>


-- 
Janko Mivšek
Aida/Web
Smalltalk Web Application Server
http://www.aidaweb.si