[squeak-dev] OpenQwaq is open!

Ken G. Brown kbrown at mac.com
Tue May 3 19:37:05 UTC 2011


And of course, big Thanks to Teleplace and the group who did all the hard work.

Ken

At 12:20 PM -0600 5/3/11, Ken G. Brown apparently wrote:
>At 11:06 AM -0700 5/3/11, Josh Gargus apparently wrote:
>>Yay Teleplace!!  It's great to see this code in the open!
>>
>>And boo to everyone who complains about the license without first saying "Yay Teleplace!!".  Personally, I would also prefer the MIT license to the GPL.  However, the whining and the sense of entitlement is a bit much.  Teleplace owes you nothing, and Teleplace's investors owe you even less.
>
>I'd say both Teleplace and their Investors owe a tremendous debt to both the originators of Squeak and the community, without which they would still be trying to get something going.
>
>Ken
>
>>
>>Full disclosure: I was a Qwaq/Teleplace employee for nearly 4 years, up until 6 months ago.  OpenQwaq happened after my time, and I have no more insight into the process than anyone else in the public.  Any apparent insight into the situation is based on speculation, not fact.
>>
>>Teleplace wrote Cog, and much complaining was heard when it wasn't released instantly (although it eventually was, as promised).  Now they release their *whole codebase*, but not under the license that you want.  Boo-hoo.
>>
>>News flash: investors are in control, and they're only in it for the money.  I'm thankful that people inside Teleplace worked hard to convince the investors to release the code.  It's a bit pathetic to lambast them because they couldn't convince them to release it under the MIT license instead of GPL.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Josh
>>
>>
>>
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>>On May 3, 2011, at 8:27 AM, Ron Teitelbaum wrote:
>>
>>>Hi All,
>>>
>>>OpenQwaq is available!
>>>
>>><http://www.teleplace.com/company/press_releases/pr-2011_05_03.php>http://www.teleplace.com/company/press_releases/pr-2011_05_03.php
>>>
>>>This should be interesting!
>>>
>>>Ron Teitelbaum
>>><http://www.3dicc.com>www.3dicc.com
>>>




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