On 01.03.2012, at 16:58, Igor Stasenko wrote:

> On 1 March 2012 16:47, Bert Freudenberg <bert at freudenbergs.de> wrote:
>> 
>> On 01.03.2012, at 13:00, Lawson English wrote:
>> 
>>> Well, to me, the various demos shown were quite compelling, and I thought, at the least the interface innovations were something that Squeak and Pharo developers might want to adopt. Certainly, for  any kind of  graphics/games-oriented development, they're the "wave of the future." As to describing them in a few sentences, I didn't think it necessary or even really worth trying to do. A picture is worth a thousand words, and these were highly interactive pictures.
>>> 
>>> Lawson
>>> 
>>> On 3/1/12 4:48 AM, Stéphane Rollandin wrote:
>>>>> http://vimeo.com/36579366
>>>>> 
>>>>> Lawson
>>>> 
>>>> I did not care to start watching a 54 minutes video just to know what you are talking about.
>>>> 
>>>> I think it would be adequate to describe the topic of your post with a few sentences along the video link. The link alone, it feels a bit like spam to me.
>>>> 
>>>> No offense intended,
>>>> 
>>>> Stef
>> 
>> 
>> For those with too short an attention span, here is a 5 minute excerpt of the full talk:
>> 
>>        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlI-gPu3SPI
>> 
>> But Bret's other demos were equally impressive, and his philosophical remarks in the second part too, so go watch the full thing.
> 
> yeap.. except that i find him too idealistic and putting to high
> demands on an audience, a bit of cynicism wouldn't hurt.
> at some moments of his talk, i can almost hear "hey, stop moralizing,
> show us how you doing that" :)

You have to keep in mind his original audience. His talk was not aimed at us. 

- Bert -