[squeak-dev] I went to Biloxi and all I got was a Tshirt

Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras vonbecmann at gmail.com
Mon Mar 19 15:58:40 UTC 2012


This might help you
 https://github.com/dalehenrich/filetree/blob/master/README.md
and this
 https://github.com/dalehenrich/metacello/blob/master/README.md

On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Chris Cunnington <
smalltalktelevision at gmail.com> wrote:

> http://twitter.com/#!/**metacello/statuses/**173496047207849985<http://twitter.com/#!/metacello/statuses/173496047207849985>
> http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/**FileTree.html<http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/FileTree.html>
> https://github.com/finworks/**smallsource<https://github.com/finworks/smallsource>
>
> Here in Biloxi at STIC, formerly Smalltalk Solutions. It's nice to go from
> Toronto at 11 degrees to Biloxi at 25 degrees. This is not Edinburgh.
> The casino has a weird policy on wifi so there is none in my room. There
> is an Ethernet jack and a cable bolted to the desk. It is no longer bolted.
> The details of why it is no longer bolted or how that nylon twist tie
> liberated itself I can neither confirm nor deny.
>
> Met most of the people I'll see for the next few days last night. So the
> introductions are done, I'd say. I'm going to a presentation in an hour on
> Dart by Eric Clayberg, who works on Dart at Google. Should be interesting
> in an academic way, as nobody will ever use Dart for anything. Tomorrow is
> a talk by Sam Adams at IBM called Big POOP. They are having fun with that
> name - Parallel OOP.
>
> I thought Smalltalk Directions, the parallel track, the academic track was
> going to be a cavalcade of stars. It has exactly one panel. I thought it
> was going to be a cavalcade, as there are about fifteen famous names on the
> paper vetting committee, none of which are here. If I understand correctly
> the Smalltalk Academic Advisory Council will have its one panel tomorrow
> with Andrew Black, Ralph Johnson, David West, and Roger Whitney. That is
> not to be missed. I guess the panel is about the future, so it could be
> about anything. Several people on that panel are destination speakers, I'd
> say.
>
> Chris Muller and myself had an interesting conversation with Dale Henrichs
> last night. Dale's doing a talk called Practical Git For Smalltalk. He
> want's to disintermediate squeaksource and squeaksource3 and use GitHub for
> Smalltalk. Instead of saving to an mcz file, you'd save to a directory
> structure with a chunk file for each method. The snapshot in an mcz file
> would no longer be a binary, a serialized object graph, but .st files in
> directories. If I understood correctly, the metadata glue would be JSON.
>
> Seems he had a light bulb moment reading about Otto Behrens at
> Finworks.biz, who has a process of doing just that. Otto's git page is
> above along with the SS3 location and the Metacello repository
> conversation. I tried loading ConfigurationOfFileTree in Pharo 1.3 and it
> failed. Then I tried to load ConfigurationOfFileTree in Pharo 1.4 and got
> the same message: 'The symbolic version #stable is not defined in
> ConfigurationOfFileTree for the current platform'. OK. I guess I'll ask
> Dale about it.
>
> The other idea Dale was mentioning about Metacello was to remove its
> dependency on Gofer or Installer, so that it could be directly
> scriptable.He says instead of a whole inhalation of classes when Metacello
> is used, there would be only two living permanently in the image.
>
> Seems I learned why MetacelloBrowser was a non-starter. For the sake of
> speed he used the class browser and then OmniBrowser to get Metacello
> running. But what Metacello needs he says is a wizard, where the user makes
> a few choices over a few pages. I can't say I'm familiar with any such
> thing in Smalltalk.
>
> OK, looks like if you resist the temptation to use Metacello and use
> Monticello to load MonticelloFileTree and MonticelloFileTree-Core from SS3,
> then they load in Pharo 1.4. And there are class comments. I can read
> those. And talk to Dale. Look at that. They load into Squeak4.3 without
> exploding. That's good.
>
> Well, you know what I know for the moment. I'm off to see a presentation
> on a brilliant language that will only ever work on Chrome. More coffee!
>
> Chris
>
>
>
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