On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 10:53 AM, tim Rowledge <tim at rowledge.org> wrote:

>
> On 06-10-2013, at 10:36 AM, Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda at gmail.com> wrote:
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> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 2:04 PM, Chris Muller <asqueaker at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >> This precise proposal is argued against by "Inline Message Pattern"
> > >> (pg. 172 of the book).  Method body's would be starting in all
> > >> different vertical places, your eyes have to "find" it.  And by
> > >> consuming more vertical space it will result in more required
> > >> scrolling.  Methods are often very short, would we really want to see
> > >> the message pattern take up more space than the body?
> > >
> > > You're putting up a straw man here. Nobody is proposing to always put
> a keyword on a new line. That would make no sense at all.
> >
> > Oh, I thought that's what you were proposing as an alternative to
> > Tim's pragma idea.  I guess I misunderstood.
> >
> > Tim's pragma idea was a joke…
>
> Yes, sort of. I bet you could make something of that kind which would
> provide formatting help. An optional wotsit that the Shout & prettyprinter
> would take notice of. Not a lot different to ideas about optional type
> information provision.
>

Yes, and one can tailor shout to an extent.  But it would be global, not
local.


>
> The real joke is that even if someone spent the time to implement it,
> nobody would use it and in a few years time somebody would be stridently
> demanding that such a system must be developed or Smalltalk would be
> *destroyed* - *destroyed I tell you!!!!* by Visual javsharp++
>

+1

hence we're left with the war between visual thinkers (rectangular blocks)
and verbal thinkers (pascal formatting).  just throwing wood on the fire ;-)
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