[squeak-dev] Andreas projects on SS

Göran Krampe goran at krampe.se
Fri Feb 14 08:10:54 UTC 2014


Hey Levente!

(and oh, thanks for that mem leak fix in SqueakSSL)

On 02/14/2014 12:21 AM, Levente Uzonyi wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Feb 2014, Göran Krampe wrote:
>> On 02/13/2014 04:50 PM, Levente Uzonyi wrote:
>>> Not all projects are dead on squeaksource.com. If you don't plan to
>>
>> I didn't say they were. *Mine* are though since I copied them to StHub.
>
> It seemed like you were not aware of the recent updates on
> squeaksource.com.

You mean updates of the front page? I was never talking about the front 
page nor have I ever edited it.

>>> update your projects there, then add a pointer to the new repository.
>>
>> Which is exactly what I did. And that pointer *disappeared*, which is
>> what I described, I think you mistook "my notes" with something else.
>
> Yes, I thought you were the one who wrote the notes on the main page. In
> that case it's clearly data loss. When did you add those notes?

I think I did it at multiple occasions - once was 2012-01-06. They all 
were gone now but I can not tell you when they disappeared nor how many 
users have been fooled during that unknown timespan.

I have now added those notes back.

>>> Deleting the projects will not help at all.
>>
>> Why not? Isn't it better to have a project in ONE place? If my
>> projects are in SS, but only with outdated code - what help is that?
>> It only confuses people
>>
>> And I have chosen to use SmalltalkHub for my personal projects - thus
>> I want to have them *all* there, both new and old. Since I can't
>> create new projects in SS, why should I keep *some* of them there?
>
> Because SqueakMap entries, or Metacello configurations can still point to
> versions in those repositories. Deleting the projects would break them.
> Since squeaksource.com is stable again, I think it would be the best to
> readd those notes.

Which is what I did.

I know deleting would break the URLs (although one could imagine the 
actual *file URLs* to keep working thus breaking nothing), but I HATE 
HATE HATE stale repositories! To me stale is worse than 404.

I never want any user of *my stuff* to come to me saying:

"You know I have been spending 132 hours fixing all these bugs in your 
project X - would you like to integrate that?"

...and hearing myself replying:

"OOohhh, sorry, I fixed those bugs a long time ago, what repo are you 
using btw?"


Thus either I make sure it can not happen with abundance of notes all 
over my SS account - or I delete it.

>> I have no idea what you mean - those posts talk about some generic
>> info that someone else put there, right? I am talking about my *own*
>> descriptions on my *own* projects.
>
> It's a misunderstanding on my part. Sorry about that.

No problemo.

regards, Göran


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