On 26.02.2014, at 00:04, tim Rowledge <tim at rowledge.org> wrote:

> Hi Tobias - I wasn’t particularly aiming anything at what you had written, merely replying to the nearest convenient email; please don’t take offence!

None taken :)

> 
> 
> On 25-02-2014, at 2:50 PM, Tobias Pape <Das.Linux at gmx.de> wrote:
> [snip]
>> 
>> This is too much for me to actually like the arrow glyphs. Apart from ^ and _ already requiring shift, 
>> losing those character would be more "meh" than "yay" for me. 
> 
> Likewise; I don’t see any real value in having _ and ^/ available for use in names when they have a reasonable place as markers for two very important concepts that need easily obtainable symbols.

but the unicode ones are nicerer!!!111einself
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Also, I would never say that _/^ should go away buy ↑ and ← used likewise, with certain shortcuts to input
(we have no APL keyboard, after all, and although a little easier to access than PITA on OSX, it will 
would be double-PITA on, say, Windows)

> 
>> 
>>> Either we have single symbols for these two rather important syntactical elements and accept that this takes out of circulation for general character usage, or we have to do the pascal thing and use long winded nonsense;
>> 
>> hey, we already have ctrl-shift-t and ctrl-shift-f inserting stuff in code…
> 
> True, and ctl-shift-char is just barely within my idea of acceptable and, of course, it pretty much has to be that way since shift-f is a simple char and ctl-f has become strongly bound to ‘find’ in most people’s mental maps.
> 
>>> 
>>> So to (mis)quote Zaphod, “ten out of ten for cleverness, minus several million for style"
>> 
>> Didn’t aim for cleverness, just wanted to say "whether doing it or not, this way will work less than that”
> 
> email is a terrible medium for humour, especially 30 year old location and life-experience-specific humour. 
I got it, but my replies do not.

Best
	-Tobias


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