Hi David,

I got a ready to use Qemu plus image for the Pi and under Windows it's 
slower than an actual Pi and can't do Network.

Get a Pi instead of grey hair :-))

IMHO that is maybe I just got a suboptimal version.

Cheers,

Herbert
Am 02.07.2014 19:37, schrieb David Corking:
>> The query and my answer are
>> at - http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=80556
>> and I would be interested in better answers.
> I don't have better answers, only more questions and ideas, which I am
> sorry about since one questioner on the forum must mean there are 10
> or 100 others who already gave up, and more who find Squeak on their
> machine each week. I am delighted that Herbert found it
> straightforward.
>
> On the RPi, does the Cog StackVM give measurably better performance
> than the interpreter VM we all know and love? (I run Squeak 4.5 on the
> interpreter VM but my PC is a lot faster than a Pi.)
>
> Does your new Scratch image take ideas from Phratch
> http://www.phratch.com/ , or indeed BYOB http://byob.berkeley.edu/ or
> other Scratch forks, or is it entirely independent?
>
> It would be great if more of us developed some packaging skill, with a
> view to providing a path to upstream Raspbian and Debian adopting
> cleaned up packages. Sadly Linux packaging is not a skill I have yet.
>
> I too have dug through the scripts and found them confusing. The
> startup script that Bert wrote for Linux is in the Etoys distribution
> at squeakland.org : I am a big fan of that as it seems to find
> everything effectively (plugins drivers and of course the image) and
> start up cleanly. I don't know if it is in any squeak.org downloads,
> but I am pretty sure that official Debian and Fedora packages use
> older and arguably slightly flaky or harder to use scripts (except for
> Sugar, but that is wrapped in some Python goodness that Bert cooked
> up.)
>
> To get everyone else thinking, I wrote one sketch of an approach, if
> we find the right volunteers:
> * Distribute zipped images the way Herbert suggested (and via the RPi
> website if you have the contacts.)
> * cleanup or expand the launch script so it launches Scratch, new
> Scratch and Squeak 4.5 (if it doesn't already)
> * prototype a suite of deb packages for Raspbian
> * when the prototypes are building cleanly, consider a public release
> * use them as a template to work with the Debian package mainainers
> * start prototyping a move to one of the Cog VMs (I don't know the
> relative merits of Stack, JIT or Spur)
> * ...
>
> Even though I don't own an RPi, I am sure I can emulate one on Qemu,
> and I would love to help if we can get a small project together to
> tackle this in bite-sized or nibble-sized chunks.
>
> David.
>