On Jun 27, 2014, at 7:07 PM, David T. Lewis <lewis at mail.msen.com> wrote:

> Hi Chris
> 
> The upgrade sounds fine, although I think we are going to have a package
> conflict between the Cog installation and the original squeakvm installation.
> Most probably the Debian package manager is not going to be happy about that.

This is precisely the kind of thing of which I'm both afraid of and ignorant about. I'm working on the assumption that there can be one VM installed at a time. I'm unsure how the presence of the Interpreter VM complicates things. I don't really want to do anything until I know adding a VM won't mess things up. 

> 
> We currently have squeakvm (interpreter VM) installed on box3 and box4 in the
> standard locations and directories. The debs are in /root/localbuilds, as
> per the Ken Causey conventions (along with our notes in /root/admin-log.txt).
> 
I'm going to have to read this more closely again tomorrow, as it's Friday night and I'm sort of drifting. 

> I expect that adding a local deb for Cog probably will just require restricting
> the package to the binaries (not all the help files and such), and presumably
> renaming the start script so that it does not step on /usr/local/bin/squeak.
> 
> I'll be happy to help you sort this out,

That sounds great. 

> assuming I have Eliot's support
> for any naming changes.

So polite. I figure if he's upset, he'll let you know. I have that feeling. 

> 
> p.s. Thanks for bringing this up on box-admins before making the change.
> Much appreciated :-)

Thank you for saying so. There may have been a time when it was beneficial for me to act unilaterally (in my own mind if nobody else's) but I think that time has past. 

Chris 
> 
> Dave
> 
> On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 04:14:51PM -0400, Chris Cunnington wrote:
>> I intend to upgrade the VM on box4 VM.r2776 (Aug. 2013) to VM.r2987 (June 2014). The intention here is to refine the install/removal process. I just did this on my Debian Wheezy box, so it seems pretty straightforward. 
>> 
>> Installing: 
>> 
>> - get a Cog binary from mirandabanda.org
>> - use Ken's cogdeb.zip to make a deb
>> - install with dpkg  (i.e. dpkg -i cogvm_2776-1_i386.deb)
>> - execute "man squeak" to see if it's loaded
>> 
>> Removing: 
>> 
>> - check the package name with dpkg-query -l 
>> - see it's actually called "coglinux" as opposed to cogvm or squeak
>> - dpkg -r coglinux
>> 
>> 
>> So, as I said, I just did this on my server and is seemed to work OK. I plan to upgrade the VM from last year's model (2776) to this year's (2987). If there's anything people with more LInux experience could add to this process, I'd be happy to hear it. 
>> 
>> Chris 
>