Dog gone it, I also just noticed "box4" and we don't have any _production_
services on box4.  Sorry, I'll shut up now.


On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 8:11 PM, Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda at gmail.com>
wrote:

>
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Chris Muller <asqueaker at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Didn't Levente ask us to use stable VM's for production services?
>>
>
> Given that 3018 has nothing radically new but contains bug fixes IMO it is
> stable.  Even the SPur VM is more stable than the one that preceeds it.
>  What extra testing has 2776 had to make it more or less stable than 2987
> or 3021?  2987 and subsequent all run the standard test suite with
> equivalent results.  I don't make arbitrary changes to the Cog VMs (Spur is
> obviously evolving much faster, but again is getting more, not less
> stable).  You need to specify a criterion by which a VM is judged stable,
> not merely go by age, which is, at least on average, inversely correlated
> with stability, older VMs containing more bugs, if you want to argue
> against using newer VMs.  I don't put newer VMs out for amusement.  I put
> them out because they're better (faster, fix bugs, etc).
>
>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 4:01 PM, Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Chris,
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Chris Cunnington <brasspen at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I intend to upgrade the VM on box4 VM.r2776 (Aug. 2013) to VM.r2987
>>>> (June 2014). The intention here is to refine the install/removal process. I
>>>> just did this on my Debian Wheezy box, so it seems pretty straightforward.
>>>>
>>>
>>> 3018 is the latest and greatest.  Please use it.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Installing:
>>>>
>>>> - get a Cog binary from mirandabanda.org
>>>> - use Ken's cogdeb.zip to make a deb
>>>> - install with dpkg  (i.e. dpkg -i cogvm_2776-1_i386.deb)
>>>> - execute "man squeak" to see if it's loaded
>>>>
>>>> Removing:
>>>>
>>>> - check the package name with dpkg-query -l
>>>> - see it's actually called "coglinux" as opposed to cogvm or squeak
>>>> - dpkg -r coglinux
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So, as I said, I just did this on my server and is seemed to work OK. I
>>>> plan to upgrade the VM from last year's model (2776) to this year's (2987).
>>>> If there's anything people with more LInux experience could add to this
>>>> process, I'd be happy to hear it.
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> best,
>>> Eliot
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>
> --
> best,
> Eliot
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