[squeak-dev] Adding WebClient and SqueakSSL to Trunk?

karl ramberg karlramberg at gmail.com
Tue Apr 21 12:24:25 UTC 2015


On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 1:46 PM, Frank Shearar <frank.shearar at gmail.com>
wrote:

> On 21 April 2015 at 10:39, karl ramberg <karlramberg at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Great.
> > Seems we need to issue a update map before these gets pulled in by
> updating.
> >
> > Can also remove Universes package ?
> > That also needs to be done in a update map, I think
>
> I _think_ that back during the 4.4 release cycle we reached consensus
> that Universes would last one more cycle. That would means its removal
> time is now.
>

Yay

>
> Don't forget that we need to bump the VersionNumber package version
> when this happens (or our "version number" will decrease).
>

Ugh, I'm not sure how that is done...

Karl

>
> frank
>
> > Karl
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 10:54 PM, Tobias Pape <Das.Linux at gmx.de> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> On 14.04.2015, at 14:18, karl ramberg <karlramberg at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > We should pull these in to trunk as soon as possible so we can get
> stuff
> >> > tested before the release of a new image.
> >> >
> >> > Can you do that Levente, as you seem most familiar with the changes
> you
> >> > made ?
> >> >
> >>
> >> Although I am not levente I went ahead and pushed SqueakSSL and
> WebClient
> >> into
> >> the trunk. Lets see how it turns out.
> >>
> >> Best
> >>         -Tobias
> >>
> >> > Karl
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 9:22 PM, Tobias Pape <Das.Linux at gmx.de> wrote:
> >> > Hi Levente
> >> >
> >> > On 06.04.2015, at 20:43, Levente Uzonyi <leves at elte.hu> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > It would be better for these packages too, because they would get
> more
> >> > > attention.
> >> > > The SqueakSSL/WebClient changes I made in October[1] are still
> missing
> >> > > from the official repositories.
> >> > >
> >> > > Levente
> >> > >
> >> > > [1]
> >> > >
> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2014-October/180251.html
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> > I just now saw that there is more than just vm stuff.
> >> >
> >> > The problem with WebClient and SqueakSSL as of now is, that
> >> > its maintenance-ship is, well, complicated. I went forth and
> >> > pushed tiny changes to WebClient by just being somewhat on
> >> > my own initiative[1].
> >> >
> >> > ===========
> >> >
> >> > Dear Squeak Community as a whole and dear Ron as person possibly
> >> > best fit to make a decision on this:
> >> >
> >> >         Should we put the maintainer-ship of WebClient and
> >> >         SqueakSSL into the hands of the Squeak Core Team?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ===========
> >> >
> >> > Best
> >> >         -Tobias
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > [1]: There's a saying, initiative is discipline-lessness with positive
> >> > outcome
> >> >
> >> > > On Mon, 6 Apr 2015, Tobias Pape wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On 06.04.2015, at 18:59, David T. Lewis <lewis at mail.msen.com>
> wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >>>> On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 10:26 AM, Marcel Taeumel
> >> > >>>> <marcel.taeumel at student.hpi.uni-potsdam.de> wrote:
> >> > >>>>> Hey! :)
> >> > >>>>>
> >> > >>>>> Can we add both to the update map (somehow?) and see if it works
> >> > >>>>> out
> >> > >>>>> during
> >> > >>>>> the following days/weeks until the release?
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> +1
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> What is the point of moving these into the base image? Aren't
> these
> >> > >>> exactly the kinds of things that you would want to have maintained
> >> > >>> as
> >> > >>> independent packages that can be easily loaded from SqueakMap?
> >> > >>
> >> > >> I think both these are Extremely Important (capital).
> >> > >> WebClient as replacement for HTTPSocket (it already provides a
> >> > >> compatibility
> >> > >> layer; Andreas seemed to always considered WebClient to replace
> >> > >> HTTPSocket),
> >> > >> and SqueakSSL because you can't load anything meaningful on the web
> >> > >> without
> >> > >> SSL; github, twitter, most sites. And that's good.
> >> > >> Plus we _finally_ could put the Plain Text Passwords for Monticello
> >> > >> behind
> >> > >> SSL…
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Best
> >> > >>      -Tobias
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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