On 12/05/2015 09:24 PM, Ben Coman wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 11:57 PM, Robert Withers
> <robert.w.withers at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Now I think you are right on with your observation. Additionally, the number
>> of dialects could increase further with Fuel serialization, just port
>> SecureSession and bits.
>>
>> Alright, I came up with a name and it may border on the egregious ...
>> presenting ...
>>
>> "Maelstrom"
> Great sounding name.  However some general advice for the community,
> since I see a lot of great sounding project names drowned out in the
> noise of our web-search-centric universe.  A litmus test for project
> naming is using google search to find which return low search results.
> Today, its more important to be unique than any other attribute of a
> name.  So in general, *dictionary* english words are not the best.
> One technique is to intentionally mispell the word you like.  Here are
> some comparative examples (note, the surrounding quotes are required
> to avoid google trying to be helpful and correct the spelling)...
>
> "maelstrom"    --> 7,480,000
> "maelstroom"  --> 6,200
> "maelstrum"    --> 2,280
> "maelstruum"  --> 7
>
> Lots of interesting other techniques can be found by searching on:
> techniques to generate brand names or domain names.
>
> cheers -ben

I would be happy to change the names to something more unique, though it 
may take a few. Are you suggesting "maelstruum"?

cheers,
Robert

>
>> A new distributed metric will be established in Maelstrom to measure intra-
>> & inter-vat activity: "Sanguinity".
>>
>> Robert
>>
>> PS. thanks for pointing out Fuel support for older squeaks.
>>
>>
>> On 12/04/2015 10:25 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
>>> Another suggestion: if you intend to make something cross dialect and hope
>>> to get traction, I would not use a project name which contains one dialect,
>>> but something more general like Cryptography, or some cool project name,
>>> like Seaside, Fuel, ...
>>>
>>>> On 04 Dec 2015, at 15:43, Robert Withers <robert.w.withers at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I use squeak 5.0 and would want the Fuel support to customize for wire
>>>> serializations and substitutions, such that Squeak and Pharo could talk to
>>>> each other, and all other Fuel environments. The Fuel changes I made are in
>>>> the Pharo port of SqueakElib in the SqueakElib-CapTP-Serialization category
>>>> and consist of a Decoder, Materializer and a Materialization.
>>>>
>>>> Robert
>>>>
>>>> On 12/04/2015 09:35 AM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote:
>>>>> which squeak version?
>>>>> of what?
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 04 Dec 2015, at 12:15, Robert Withers <robert.w.withers at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just realized that the squeak version uses ReferenceStream while the
>>>>>> Pharo version uses Fuel, so the binary serializations are different and they
>>>>>> won't speak to each other. Any chance that Fuel is ported to Squeak?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Robert
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12/04/2015 06:11 AM, Robert Withers wrote:
>>>>>>> I am unable to import these files into SqueakSource, so it may be best
>>>>>>> done from inside Pharo with Monticello. Here are working Crypto and
>>>>>>> SqueakElib in Pharo, prior to SecureSession refactoring and Reed Solomon. I
>>>>>>> include the correct version of LayeredProtocol.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Robert
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 12/04/2015 05:47 AM, Robert Withers wrote:
>>>>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.squeaksource.com/Cryptography.html
>>>>>>>> http://www.squeaksource.com/squeakelib.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 12/04/2015 05:44 AM, Robert Withers wrote:
>>>>>>>>> After my password reset on squeaksource, I committed to both
>>>>>>>>> Cryptography and SqueakElib, project links below.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In the case of Cryptography, I had a version ported to Pharo ... I
>>>>>>>>> will organize Pharo ports of both after Reed Solomon is stable, and announce
>>>>>>>>> them to the Pharo list. This way both environments can be supported through
>>>>>>>>> this one repository.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Robert
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 12/04/2015 04:35 AM, Stephan Eggermont wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 03-12-15 23:06, Robert Withers wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Are any of these used by both squeak and Pharo? That would be the
>>>>>>>>>>> right
>>>>>>>>>>> move I think. I will ask about getting my password reset for
>>>>>>>>>>> squeaksource, since that is where the old code resides.
>>>>>>>>>> All of them. Mostly timing of project start/high activity and who
>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>> maintaining it decided on platforms. There was a time when
>>>>>>>>>> squeaksource was not so stable and then many projects migrated, and I
>>>>>>>>>> currently hear least about stability issues from ss3, but the load on
>>>>>>>>>> smalltalkhub is much higher, I assume, as that is used for the pharo ci.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In the not so far future Pharo is likely to move to a git based
>>>>>>>>>> infrastructure, using libgit2. Early adopters are already using it.
>>>>>>>>>> I haven't heard the squeak ideas about that.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Stephan
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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