[squeak-dev] The Inbox: Traits-pre.307.mcz

karl ramberg karlramberg at gmail.com
Thu Nov 26 12:04:39 UTC 2015


On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Stéphane Rollandin <lecteur at zogotounga.net
> wrote:

>  You say "Nobody cares.
>> Nobody wants to make Squeak better. The only thing the Squeak community
>> values is compatibility with Alan's demos, and a version of Etoys that
>> nobody uses.".  None of those statements are true of my efforts or, as
>> far as I can see, of the significant efforts of the HPI team, or of Tim
>> Rowledge, if Chris Muller or Levente Uzoni, and probably a lot of other
>> folks too.
>>
>> Squeak is my day to day workhorse.  The HOI folks are improving the
>> environment at great velocity.  Squeak 5 is ~40% faster than Squeak 4.6.
>>   Neither of these things are true because no one cares.
>>
>
> +1
>
> And if I may add: the feeling that "nobody cares" is a permeating one. Not
> many people give feedback about what they care about (me included).
>
> In my case, I definitely have the feeling that nobody cares about anything
> I ever did in Squeak during about 15 years now, which to day includes: a
> modular Lisp/Scheme implementation, an extension for functional
> programming, the upgrading of the Prolog implementation, a vast system for
> musical composition, and a Space Invader reboot.
>
> It's fortunate I did not do this for glory and fame :)
>
> Even more, I still mostly feel like a complete outsider (probably because
> I build things on top of Squeak instead of working on the core, and
> possibly also because I work alone and have no position in industry or
> academia).
>
> I'm so convinced nobody cares about what I do that stopped long ago
> sending fixes to bug I encounters: I just fix them in my code. For example,
> the Saucers game I did has a much faster way of handling morphs, down to
> modified #addMorph: logic. This could be leveraged, if someone looked at
> the code. But you cannot command interest.
>

Are you not interested becoming a core developer so you can contribute
 directly to trunk ?
I would guess you are qualified, based on the stuff you have produced...

Best,
Karl

>
> Well, that's how it is. I have the same experience with Csound people, so
> I'm pretty sure there is nothing specific to Squeak in these matters. The
> web is a cold place.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Stef
>
>
>
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