[squeak-dev] Squeak 5.1, saving of Morphic projects is broken

Tim Felgentreff timfelgentreff at gmail.com
Sat Aug 27 13:07:53 UTC 2016


Hi,

in the process of updating Squeakland etoys to load in 5.1,we have also
made the sexp format project saving and loading work again. This might be a
VM independent way forward for storing projects.

Regarding loading old projects, Bert has an experimental OldSegmentLoader
that can load pre-Spur segments into 5.1

best,
Tim

Herbert König <herbertkoenig at gmx.net> schrieb am Fr., 26. Aug. 2016, 15:40:

> Thanks Hannes,
>
> I'll let you know.
>
> A typical image of mine contains lots of projects with documentation
> and ideas I need to be able to save.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Herbert
>
> Am Fri, 26 Aug 2016 13:43:06 +0100
> schrieb "H. Hirzel" <hannes.hirzel at gmail.com>:
>
> > Hallo Herbert
> >
> > I am currently using the 5.1 release for development.
> >
> > I think it was
> >
> > 4 fixes in the Inbox and I just filed them in an Squeak 4.6 image
> > (updated from the Squeak 4.6 all-in-one-release) in December 2015
> >
> > http://forum.world.st/The-Trunk-System-cwp-781-mcz-td4864083.html
> > http://forum.world.st/The-Trunk-System-cwp-782-mcz-td4864086.html
> > http://forum.world.st/The-Inbox-Morphic-cwp-1055-mcz-td4864087.html
> > http://forum.world.st/The-Inbox-Morphic-jmg-1055-mcz-td4864091.html
> >
> > It this is not sufficient give me some time to dig out that 4.6 image
> > from the archive and try to recover what I did.
> >
> > --Hannes
> >
> >
> > On 8/26/16, Herbert König <herbertkoenig at gmx.net> wrote:
> > > Hi Hannes,
> > >
> > > any tips how to get at that image and what VM to use? I still use
> > > 4.4 for development and later versions just for deployment.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Herbert
> > >
> > > Am Fri, 26 Aug 2016 13:16:03 +0100
> > > schrieb "H. Hirzel" <hannes.hirzel at gmail.com>:
> > >
> > >> Hello Vaidotas
> > >>
> > >> It can confirm that Project saving worked again in Squeak 4.6 in
> > >> December 2015 with the fixes applied done by Colin Putney[1]. I did
> > >> some tests then.
> > >>
> > >> The  64bit image is experimental.
> > >>
> > >> I just tested Project saving in Squeak 5.1 (32bit image) in
> > >> MSWindows and on Linux. It does not work either. So we need to
> > >> wait for a VM update.
> > >>
> > >> Regards
> > >> Hannes
> > >>
> > >> [1] http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6218
> > >> <citation>
> > >> With these four changes, it's possible to save and load projects
> > >> in a Squeak 4.6 image. It doesn't work in a trunk image, however.
> > >> The Spur VM crashes when saving a project. I've reported that on
> > >> the VM list. It also fails to load an image segment - looks like
> > >> the primitive for that isn't quite finished in Spur.
> > >> </citation>
> > >>
> > >> On 8/26/16, Herbert König <herbertkoenig at gmx.net> wrote:
> > >> > Hi Vaidotas,
> > >> >
> > >> > according to the end of
> > >> > http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6218
> > >> > this is now a VM problem. The image side shold have been solved.
> > >> >
> > >> > From older discussions I remember that environments are too
> > >> > deeply entangled with the guts of Squeak that it's not feasible
> > >> > to remove them again.
> > >> >
> > >> > And then some people may use them.
> > >> >
> > >> > Cheers,
> > >> >
> > >> > Herbert
> > >> >
> > >> >  Am Fri, 26 Aug 2016 13:46:40 +0300
> > >> > schrieb Vaidotas Didžbalis <vaidasd at gmail.com>:
> > >> >
> > >> >> Hello,
> > >> >> Project saving is broken. When trying to save Morphic project to
> > >> >> disk on 64bit image on Windows user is locked in the loop of
> > >> >> popping up emergency evaluator, you have to kill Squeak as a OS
> > >> >> process. See the docking bar, the second menu item is the
> > >> >> Project menu. We need to add this to the known Issues session
> > >> >> of the 5.1 release notes at least. This bug was pushed with
> > >> >> Environments package since 4.5. Is anyone uses Environments?
> > >> >> Can they be removed? Why Environments is not loadable package?
> > >> >> regards, Vaidotas
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
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