FW: [squeak-dev] spyOnWorldFor:

Yoshiki Ohshima Yoshiki.Ohshima at acm.org
Wed Jul 13 19:53:55 UTC 2016


Great idea.  I think he would like decoupling the name and identity is
a good idea (as Craig also says often).

On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 10:17 AM, Ron Teitelbaum <ron at usmedrec.com> wrote:
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> From: Ron Teitelbaum [mailto:ron at 3dicc.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 1:13 PM
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> Yes you can rename it but please add the following in the class comment:
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> This class is dedicated in memory of Andreas Raab the person, the tremendous
> amount of work including his contributions to this class, and the
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> Ron
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> From: Eliot Miranda [mailto:eliot.miranda at gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 12:37 PM
> To: Ron Teitelbaum
> Cc: Chris Muller; The general-purpose Squeak developers list
> Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] spyOnWorldFor:
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> On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 9:23 AM, Chris Muller <asqueaker at gmail.com> wrote:
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> I think we should rename AndreasSystemProfiler to MessageTally,
> replacing the old implementation.
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> Andreas' initials are still preserved on the methods that way, and we
> maintain the generic naming that Smalltalk has always had since its
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> +1.  Ron, as a representative of the copyright holder, are you willing to
> give your ascent to this renaming and inclusion in the base?
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> On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 5:47 AM, Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda at gmail.com>
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>> H All,
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>>> On Jul 11, 2016, at 2:55 PM, Levente Uzonyi <leves at caesar.elte.hu> wrote:
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>>>> On Mon, 11 Jul 2016, Yoshiki Ohshima wrote:
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>>>> Thanks.  Is there actually a reason to try AndreasSystemProfier, or
>>>> does the MessageTally in Squeak 5.0 subsume it?
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>>> AndreasSystemProfier is more accurate, because it can measure the time
>>> spent in primitives.
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>> And hence in 5.x we could replace MessageTally with AndreasSystemProfiler
>> and have only one copy of the code.
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>> If students are working on improving MessageTally they could (and IMO
>> should) be redirected to AndreasSystemProfiler.
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>>> Levente
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>>>>> On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 7:45 AM, Eliot Miranda
>>>>> <eliot.miranda at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Yoshiki,
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>>>>>    try an up-to-date VM.  I'd point you to Travis could but I don't see
>>>>> entirely green builds there right now.  So pick up the most up-to-date VM
>>>>> from my site.
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>>>>> _,,,^..^,,,_ (phone)
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>>>>>> On Jul 8, 2016, at 3:58 PM, Yoshiki Ohshima <Yoshiki.Ohshima at acm.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
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>>>>>> I am trying a few things on Squeak 5.0.  In earlier versions there was
>>>>>> AndreasSystemProfier (formerly known as QSystemProfier) and had a
>>>>>> method called spyOnWorldFor:, which was quite useful.  I just loaded
>>>>>> AndreasProfier-eem.11.mcz and tried it but it crashed the 5.0 all in
>>>>>> one VM on Mac OS 10.10.
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>>>>>> Is this a known issue?  Is there an alternative to it?
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>>>>>> --
>>>>>> -- Yoshiki
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>>>> --
>>>> -- Yoshiki
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> best, Eliot
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