[squeak-dev] Re: A speedcenter for Squeak

Tim Felgentreff timfelgentreff at gmail.com
Sat Jun 11 05:40:36 UTC 2016


Hi David,

sure, I can easily add the Stack Vm once we have it built on every commit
from Github :)

cheers,
Tim
Am 11.06.2016 3:16 vorm. schrieb "David T. Lewis" <lewis at mail.msen.com>:

> On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 06:54:24AM -0700, timfelgentreff wrote:
> > I added the VM today, and then realized I haven't built in a variation
> point
> > for choosing the image - and I only have a script to build a Spur image
> > right now. So I regret that this wasn't (as I first assumed) a thing of 2
> > minutes. But I'll get to it.
> >
>
> Let me know if I can help. Attached is a script for building the VM from
> latest SVN sources (the install step is commented out).
>
> Choosing the image might be harder. ckformat can be used to select a VM
> for an image, but the interpreter VM can only run a V3 image (not Spur),
> so maybe the comparison is not so meaningful. I have been maintaining a V3
> mirror of Squeak trunk (
> http://build.squeak.org/job/FollowTrunkOnOldV3Image/)
> but I will not be maintaining long term (only a few more months or so).
>
> On balance, maybe it is better to use a Stack interpreter VM as the
> baseline.
> This should be similar enough to the context interpreter VM, and it will
> run Spur images, so that may be good as a baseline. It would have been nice
> to say that "Cog is X times faster than the original interpreter VM" but
> comparing to StackInterpreter may be close enough.
>
> Dave
>
>
> >
> > marcel.taeumel wrote
> > >
> > > David T. Lewis wrote
> > >> This really looks very useful, and the graphs and trend lines are nice
> > >> for
> > >> visualization.
> > >>
> > >> Would there be any value in adding an interpreter VM as a baseline to
> > >> show
> > >> Cog/Spur/RSqueak compared to a non-optimized VM?
> > >>
> > >> Dave
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> Hi,
> > >>>
> > >>> I sent around a note earlier about a benchmarking tool that we're
> using
> > >>> internally to track RSqueak/VM performance on each commit. Every time
> > >>> Eliot
> > >>> releases a new set of Cog VMs, I also manually trigger the system to
> run
> > >>> benchmarks on Cog. (Once we move the proper VM to Github, I will set
> it
> > >>> up
> > >>> so we test each commit on the main development branch and the release
> > >>> branch, too, so we will have very detailed breakdowns.) We wanted to
> > >>> share
> > >>> this setup and the results with the community.
> > >>>
> > >>> We're collecting results in a Codespeed website (just a frontend to
> > >>> present
> > >>> the data) which we moved to speed.squeak.org today, and it is also
> > >>> linked
> > >>> from the squeak.org website (http://squeak.org/codespeed/).
> > >>>
> > >>> We have some info about the setup on the about page:
> > >>> http://speed.squeak.org/about. On the Changes tab, you can see the
> most
> > >>> recent results per platform and environment, with details about the
> > >>> machines on the bottom. Note that we calculate all the statistics on
> the
> > >>> workers themselves and only send the time and std dev, so the
> results'
> > >>> min
> > >>> and max values you see on the website are bogus.
> > >>>
> > >>> Finally, the code for the workers also is on Github (
> > >>> https://github.com/HPI-SWA-Lab/RSqueak-Benchmarking) and the
> Benchmarks
> > >>> are
> > >>> all organized in Squeaksource (
> > >>>
> http://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/hirschfeld/squeaksource/BenchmarkRunner.html
> ).
> > >>> Right now I've just dumped benchmarks from various sources in there,
> > >>> that's
> > >>> why you see the same benchmark implemented multiple times in
> different
> > >>> ways, and some micro benchmarks don't make too much sense as they
> are.
> > >>> We're happy to get comments, feedback, or updated versions of the
> > >>> benchmarking packages. Updating the benchmarking code is easy, and we
> > >>> hope
> > >>> this setup proves to be useful enough for the community to warrant
> > >>> continuously updating and extending the set of benchmarks.
> > >>>
> > >>> We are also planning to add more platforms, the setup should make
> this
> > >>> fairly painless, we just need the dedicated machines. We've been
> testing
> > >>> the standard Cog/Spur VM on a Ubuntu machine, and today we added a
> > >>> Raspberry Pi 1 that is still churning through the latest Cog and
> > >>> RSqueak/VM
> > >>> commits. We'd like to add a Mac and a Windows box, and maybe SqueakJS
> > >>> and
> > >>> other builds of the Squeak VM, too.
> > >>>
> > >>> Cheers,
> > >>> Tim
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > > +1
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Marcel
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > View this message in context:
> http://forum.world.st/A-speedcenter-for-Squeak-tp4899946p4900414.html
> > Sent from the Squeak - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
>
>
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