[squeak-dev] Cross post to enlighten the eite

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Sun May 8 04:42:13 UTC 2016


Tim,

I think you may have something set up on your test system like you have on
RPi's for Scratch, so a different VM than the one in the latest download is
running your image perhaps?  I don't know the path that normally gets
followed but when I copy squeak.exe from the LinuxAndWindows directory to
the Resources directory and run it there, the halo result of a right click
on an open window happens.

Sorry to pop your balloon.

Kirk



On Sat, May 7, 2016 at 2:07 PM, tim Rowledge <tim at rowledge.org> wrote:

> Leaving aside the pontificatory apoctypha for a moment -
>
>
> > Not just any 5.0 but 15113, the most recent download available on 5/5/16.
>
> Funny. My download of the same package shows that it starts up with the
> expected behaviour of the right button raising a menu and the middle button
> opening the halo. This is as expected and as has been the case for a long
> time. It happens to be the *wrong* way in my opinion since quite obviously
> a middle button  (and all mice should have three, clearly) ought to open
> the contextual menus. However, the preference is trivial to find and many
> unfortunates are inured to wrong way through a sad life of deprivation and
> privation whilst using inferior systems.
>
> Halos have been part of Morphic since before the dinosaurs roamed the
> earth. They are not an 'improvement that made Squeak as worthless as a
> balloon full of machine gun holes. ' that has suddenly been foisted upon
> you by those of us in the elite {strokes white Persian cat while glaring at
> you from the Volcano Lair(™) on my secret estate on a Pacific Island} as a
> way of ruining your morning.
>
> For the right button to open a halo would require
> a) the preference being set that way in the release; which it is clearly
> not.
> b) the preference having been set by the user, either deliberately or
> accidentally
> c) the preference having been set previously, saved and then loaded by the
> user
> d) the device’s mouse driver being swapped
> e) use of a vm flag such as ‘-swapbtn’ on unix and probably others on
> Mac/Windows.
>
> >
> > In college I read teachers discovered innovation for the sake of
> innovation was worthless.  It is time Squeak-Dev learned that and only make
> useful improvements.
>
> I’m glad I didn’t go to a college like that.
>
> >  I can't remember the Halo ever once being useful.  Take a class in
> SolidWorks and do that in Squeak instead of Morphic an other not useful
> improvements.
>
> The only useful part of the Solidworks UI I ever found was the exit.
>
>
> tim
> --
> tim Rowledge; tim at rowledge.org; http://www.rowledge.org/tim
> Useful Latin Phrases:- Canis meus id comedit = My dog ate it.
>
>
>
>
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