On 27.02.2017, at 21:01, Chris Muller <asqueaker at gmail.com> wrote:

> -1 to ditching the All-In-One.  Freedom is being able to simply run a
> binary out of a folder.

Yes, then just download the one for your platform.

>  If one platform requires a special bundle,
> then it'll require it in any case, but we should still also keep
> generating the All-In-One for everybody else.
> 

The AIO is getting cumbersome to build, codesign, and correctly use for
different platforms.
It is ludicrous that we point people to a .bat file on Windows, just because
macOS demands its top folder to be clean.
And the .app bundle is confusing on all but macOS.
And how do we introduce snaps[1] in the AIO.

Currently, we have this:
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Let's just have this:
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There's currently no actual advantage in having the AIO apart from supporting people like me who 
are reluctant decision makers… ;)

Let's be frank, putting the AIO on an USB stick and running from that on different platform is really really seldom…


Best regards
	-Tobias

[1]: https://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/snappy

> 
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 6:00 AM, Tobias Pape <Das.Linux at gmx.de> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> here's a bullet point list:
>> - macOS Sierra needs a special vm compared w/ previous ones
>> - macOS Sierra makes it hard to _just run_ downloaded bundles/All-in-ones
>> - all-in-ones look ugly since Yosemite due to new requiremens for code signing.
>> - we have some indirection in the shell scripts for the linux variant
>> - we still have this strange LD_LIBRARY_PATH dance that apparently fails on
>>   newest Ubuntu (see recent mail)
>> - occasionally, we have people from BSDen who also want to use Squeak.
>> 
>> So, I'd propose:
>> - Ditch the AOIs.
>> - Deliver macOS bundles as DMG, not as Zip, so as to force people to
>>   move the bundle, so that macOS Sierra is happy to run stuff.
>> In the long run:
>> - Provide deb's and rpm's
>> 
>> 
>> Best regards
>>        -Tobias
>> 
>