I'm seeing problems with SqueakSource right now, trying to figure out
what is wrong. So the project may not be accessible right now :-/

Dave


On Thu, Oct 05, 2017 at 01:17:58AM +0200, H. Hirzel wrote:
> Karl,
> 
> So far entering and existing the Etoys project works smoothly.
> 
> Load mcz from into current Squeak 6.0a
> 
> MCHttpRepository
>     location: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/EtoysProject'
>     user: ''
>     password: ''
> 
> The issue is about providing more settings when entering.
> 
> Karl, do you want to be added to the list of developers?
> 
> --HH
> 
> On 10/5/17, H. Hirzel <hannes.hirzel at gmail.com> wrote:
> > PasteUpMorph is useful and the functions have to be maintained.
> >
> > However adding more functions to Morph does not make sense.
> >
> > Squeak 6.0a
> > Morph selectors size  1345
> > PasteUpMorph selectors size  530
> >
> > --Hannes
> >
> > On 10/4/17, karl ramberg <karlramberg at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> I'm not sure anybody uses Etoys anymore, but PasteUpMorph is very useful
> >> in
> >> direct manipulation because of it's various layout and event handling
> >> options.  It also act as a container of other morphs, with automatic
> >> layout, enumeration etc.
> >> I'm sure most of this could be refactored into Morph class or another
> >> class.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> Karl
> >>
> >> On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 3:03 PM, Marcel Taeumel <marcel.taeumel at hpi.de>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> +1 :)
> >>>
> >>> And then later: Rename PasteUpMorph to WorldMorph, and keep an empty
> >>> PasteUpMorph subclass around for compatibility reasons. So many ideas
> >>> have
> >>> been ported down to Morph class over the past years. New applications
> >>> have
> >>> no reason to ever use other instances of PasteUpMorph.
> >>>
> >>> Best,
> >>> Marcel
> >>>
> >>> Am 03.10.2017 14:57:55 schrieb H. Hirzel <hannes.hirzel at gmail.com>:
> >>> On 10/3/17, H. Hirzel wrote:
> >>> > Dave
> >>> >
> >>> > your change set contains the class EtoysProject with
> >>> >
> >>> > EtoysProject selectors
> >>> >
> >>> > #(#finalEnterActions: #restoreGlobalPreferences #saveGlobalPreferences
> >>> > #initializeProjectPreferences #configureOnFirstEntry
> >>> > #finalExitActions:)
> >>> >
> >>> > For complete configuration of a EtoysProject it might be necessary to
> >>> > do
> >>> >
> >>> > PasteUpMorph subclass: EtoysPasteUpMorph
> >>> >
> >>> > as well. http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6461
> >>> >
> >>> > Then Etoys related methods may be pushed down to EtoysPasteUpMorph.
> >>>
> >>> See screen shot attached.
> >>>
> >>> > And probably an Etoys specific subclass of WorldMenu would be fine as
> >>> well
> >>> > http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6461
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > there is a test project [2] and some more information about adaptions
> >>> > needed because of the UI changes in the thread 'Etoys in 2017?' - UI
> >>> > preferences [3]. And it would be good to have Etoys methods /
> >>> > configuration separate [4].
> >>> >
> >>> > I suggest that you start go ahead and start implementing this while
> >>> > using a test Etoys project dropped onto the desktop.
> >>> >
> >>> > --Hannes
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > [2] > You simply drop it in. E.g. download this project
> >>> >> http://etoys.laptop.org/src/Content/ExampleEtoys/CarAndPen.014.pr
> >>> >
> >>> > [3] Hannes Hirzel, 'Etoys in 2017?' mail, Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 11:01
> >>> > AM
> >>> >
> >>> > [4] David T. Lewis, Sep 4, 2016 at 3:34 PM
> >>> > "I think it would be great if both Etoys and Scratch were easily
> >>> > loadable and unloadable in trunk."
> >>> >
> >>> > On 10/2/17, David T. Lewis wrote:
> >>> >> An EtoysProject is a project that is configured for running Etoys. On
> >>> >> first entry to a new EtoysProject, the playground and project
> >>> preferences
> >>> >> are initialized to provide an environment similar to that of a
> >>> >> traditional
> >>> >> standalone Etoys image.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Certain preferences that are required for Etoys are initialized on
> >>> >> project
> >>> >> entry, overriding their global preference values while this
> >>> EtoysProject
> >>> >> is active. On leaving the project, these preferences are restored to
> >>> >> their
> >>> >> previous values.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> "ProjectViewMorph openOn: EtoysProject new"
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Change set attached for a minimal implementation.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Anyone with Etoys knowledge care to help? I do not know enough about
> >>> >> Etoys
> >>> >> to fill in the rest of the initialization that will be required, but
> >>> >> it
> >>> >> should not be hard to do.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Dave
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >


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