Dave,

Yes, I encounter problems. They might be related to what I just tried to do:

I wanted to save an updated version of Morphic to the ProjectEtoys
repository  but by mistake I tried to commit it to the trunk. As I do
not have commit rights to trunk this prevented me from changing it
inadvertently. Later on I wanted to commit that version to
ProjectEtoys. It did not work.

--Hannes



On 10/5/17, David T. Lewis <lewis at mail.msen.com> wrote:
> I'm seeing problems with SqueakSource right now, trying to figure out
> what is wrong. So the project may not be accessible right now :-/
>
> Dave
>
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> On Thu, Oct 05, 2017 at 01:17:58AM +0200, H. Hirzel wrote:
>> Karl,
>>
>> So far entering and existing the Etoys project works smoothly.
>>
>> Load mcz from into current Squeak 6.0a
>>
>> MCHttpRepository
>>     location: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/EtoysProject'
>>     user: ''
>>     password: ''
>>
>> The issue is about providing more settings when entering.
>>
>> Karl, do you want to be added to the list of developers?
>>
>> --HH
>>
>> On 10/5/17, H. Hirzel <hannes.hirzel at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > PasteUpMorph is useful and the functions have to be maintained.
>> >
>> > However adding more functions to Morph does not make sense.
>> >
>> > Squeak 6.0a
>> > Morph selectors size  1345
>> > PasteUpMorph selectors size  530
>> >
>> > --Hannes
>> >
>> > On 10/4/17, karl ramberg <karlramberg at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> I'm not sure anybody uses Etoys anymore, but PasteUpMorph is very
>> >> useful
>> >> in
>> >> direct manipulation because of it's various layout and event handling
>> >> options.  It also act as a container of other morphs, with automatic
>> >> layout, enumeration etc.
>> >> I'm sure most of this could be refactored into Morph class or another
>> >> class.
>> >>
>> >> Best,
>> >> Karl
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 3:03 PM, Marcel Taeumel <marcel.taeumel at hpi.de>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> +1 :)
>> >>>
>> >>> And then later: Rename PasteUpMorph to WorldMorph, and keep an empty
>> >>> PasteUpMorph subclass around for compatibility reasons. So many ideas
>> >>> have
>> >>> been ported down to Morph class over the past years. New applications
>> >>> have
>> >>> no reason to ever use other instances of PasteUpMorph.
>> >>>
>> >>> Best,
>> >>> Marcel
>> >>>
>> >>> Am 03.10.2017 14:57:55 schrieb H. Hirzel <hannes.hirzel at gmail.com>:
>> >>> On 10/3/17, H. Hirzel wrote:
>> >>> > Dave
>> >>> >
>> >>> > your change set contains the class EtoysProject with
>> >>> >
>> >>> > EtoysProject selectors
>> >>> >
>> >>> > #(#finalEnterActions: #restoreGlobalPreferences
>> >>> > #saveGlobalPreferences
>> >>> > #initializeProjectPreferences #configureOnFirstEntry
>> >>> > #finalExitActions:)
>> >>> >
>> >>> > For complete configuration of a EtoysProject it might be necessary
>> >>> > to
>> >>> > do
>> >>> >
>> >>> > PasteUpMorph subclass: EtoysPasteUpMorph
>> >>> >
>> >>> > as well. http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6461
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Then Etoys related methods may be pushed down to EtoysPasteUpMorph.
>> >>>
>> >>> See screen shot attached.
>> >>>
>> >>> > And probably an Etoys specific subclass of WorldMenu would be fine
>> >>> > as
>> >>> well
>> >>> > http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6461
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > there is a test project [2] and some more information about
>> >>> > adaptions
>> >>> > needed because of the UI changes in the thread 'Etoys in 2017?' - UI
>> >>> > preferences [3]. And it would be good to have Etoys methods /
>> >>> > configuration separate [4].
>> >>> >
>> >>> > I suggest that you start go ahead and start implementing this while
>> >>> > using a test Etoys project dropped onto the desktop.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > --Hannes
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > [2] > You simply drop it in. E.g. download this project
>> >>> >> http://etoys.laptop.org/src/Content/ExampleEtoys/CarAndPen.014.pr
>> >>> >
>> >>> > [3] Hannes Hirzel, 'Etoys in 2017?' mail, Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 11:01
>> >>> > AM
>> >>> >
>> >>> > [4] David T. Lewis, Sep 4, 2016 at 3:34 PM
>> >>> > "I think it would be great if both Etoys and Scratch were easily
>> >>> > loadable and unloadable in trunk."
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On 10/2/17, David T. Lewis wrote:
>> >>> >> An EtoysProject is a project that is configured for running Etoys.
>> >>> >> On
>> >>> >> first entry to a new EtoysProject, the playground and project
>> >>> preferences
>> >>> >> are initialized to provide an environment similar to that of a
>> >>> >> traditional
>> >>> >> standalone Etoys image.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Certain preferences that are required for Etoys are initialized on
>> >>> >> project
>> >>> >> entry, overriding their global preference values while this
>> >>> EtoysProject
>> >>> >> is active. On leaving the project, these preferences are restored
>> >>> >> to
>> >>> >> their
>> >>> >> previous values.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> "ProjectViewMorph openOn: EtoysProject new"
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Change set attached for a minimal implementation.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Anyone with Etoys knowledge care to help? I do not know enough
>> >>> >> about
>> >>> >> Etoys
>> >>> >> to fill in the rest of the initialization that will be required,
>> >>> >> but
>> >>> >> it
>> >>> >> should not be hard to do.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Dave
>> >>> >>
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