[squeak-dev] Smalltalk Archeology
martin.dahl at gmx.de
Wed Sep 20 15:10:00 UTC 2017
Thanks, I have not realised that one of the snaphots actually did capture the binaries.
> On 20. Sep 2017, at 08:14, Marcel Taeumel <marcel.taeumel at hpi.de> wrote:
> The snapshot from 03/24/07 works:
> http://web.archive.org/web/20070324070352/http://bitquabit.com:80/rev/old/download/methods11.zip <http://web.archive.org/web/20070324070352/http://bitquabit.com:80/rev/old/download/methods11.zip>
> http://web.archive.org/web/20070320232853/http://bitquabit.com:80/rev/old/download/stv3-dos-installed.zip <http://web.archive.org/web/20070320232853/http://bitquabit.com:80/rev/old/download/stv3-dos-installed.zip>
> http://web.archive.org/web/20070320232853/http://bitquabit.com:80/rev/old/download/ReadMe.html <http://web.archive.org/web/20070320232853/http://bitquabit.com:80/rev/old/download/ReadMe.html>
>> Am 19.09.2017 20:32:03 schrieb Jecel Assumpcao Jr. <jecel at merlintec.com>:
>> Martin Dahl wrote on: Tue, 19 Sep 2017 18:26:41 +0200
>> > out of interest in Smalltalk and embedded systems, I am
>> > looking for the only text mode smalltalk I know of, Digitalk
>> > methods.
>> GNU Smalltalk and Little Smalltalk are also text only. There there was a
>> version of Squeak for MS-DOS without graphics, but it was not as usable
>> as these two.
>> For Little Smalltalk there are four rather different versions. Version 1
>> is what is described in the book:
>> > http://sdmeta.gforge.inria.fr/FreeBooks/LittleSmalltalk/ALittleSmalltalk.pdf
>> Version 3 is very similar to Smalltalk-76 (all classes are instances of
>> Class) while version 4 is like Smalltalk-80 (with metaclasses). Each of
>> these versions have had interesting forks over the years trying to
>> remove some of the limitations.
>> > The best my google fu has come up with is a reference to the
>> > old forum (dating back to 2007): http://forum.world.st/Check-out-the-Smalltalk-Archeology-page-Smalltalk-80-and-more-td61347.html
>> > Sadly, wayback has noch archived the binaries.
>> > I was wondering whether someone from this list might still have
>> > a copy of methods, or maybe somebody knows whether there
>> > is some similar page still online?
>> I should have a copy, though I have no idea if the floppy disks are
>> readable after all these years. I will take a look. But I would think
>> any current project would have better results with the open source
>> alternative I mentioned above than with a binary solution like Methods.
>> Note that Methods is not really text only. It has a traditional
>> Smalltalk GUI which happens to use the CGA text mode. And that is
>> something that might not make sense in an embedded system.
>> -- Jecel
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