> On Dec 18, 2018, at 2:20 PM, Chris Muller <asqueaker at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim,
> 
>> Possibly related functionally but certainly by subject area -
>> the modal dialogues I build for the file chooser etc are 'violated' by a yellowbuttonmenu IF you haven't turned off yellowbutton menus. Not noticed before because my normal preferences do just that; this time I tried some stuff in a very vanilla image and spotted the problem.
>> 
>> Open a file chooser. cClick about a bit to make sure it is live. Click yellow button; you can now wander off and click in other windows - you've killed the modal nature of the dialog. You can 'return' by simply clicking in the dialog again.
> 
> I'm glad you put 'violated' in quotes like that, since there can be
> other scopes of modality than global.  For example, it could extend
> from only the window which spawned it (the ideal), OR (going in the
> other direction to the extreme), what if opening up a FileDialog in
> your Squeak image not only prevented you from interacting with other
> Squeak windows but all other OS windows, too?   (Impossible, I know,
> but a question for conceptual illustration..).   IMO, any scope beyond
> the minimum scope seems arbitarily restricting.
> 
> I think we should consider making all modal dialogs scoped only to the
> spawner.  

+10

> As long as the dialog selection works and continues to
> process upon the selection, this sounds like a feature.  Because even
> after the user has opened the dialog and navigated to the directory
> they want, if they find different file-names than they expected and
> need to go look elsewhere in the image to confirm, -- it seems
> unnecessary to make them cancel out and go through all of that again.
> 
> Best,
>  Chris
> 
> 
>> (I just noticed that using the halo does the same.)
>> Turn off 'generalizedYellowButtonMenu' in the preferences and you don't get the (non-halo) problem.
>> 
>> 
>> tim
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