[squeak-dev] Survey: what do you do with Squeak, what do you *want* to do?

Edwin Ancaer eancaer at gmail.com
Wed Feb 28 11:27:42 UTC 2018


Ben,

Thanks for pointing me to that tutorial. I just finished the first section,
and I skimmed over the complete document. It seems to give a good
impression on how development with Squeak can be done.

In the coming days, I will certainly be doing the other sections.

There is some hope left for me after all...👍

Op 26 feb. 2018 22:11 schreef "Ben Coman" <btc at openinworld.com>:

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> On 23 February 2018 at 13:16, Edwin Ancaer <eancaer at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> What do you use Squeak for?
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>> Unfortunately, I mostly just follow the list.  My experience is limited
>> to elementary experiments: just defining some classes, and using them in a
>> workspace, using the transcript to inspect the results.
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>> If you don't use Squeak, why not?
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>> I just don't seem to get it. I think I master the building blocks, I get
>> what is in the SBE book, but somehow, I don't see how to tie the pieces
>> together into something that looks like a regular application.
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> Hi Edwin,
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> You might like Stephan Wessels "LaserGame" tutorial.  Its is a great
> end-to-end tutorial for developing a regular application.
> http://squeak.preeminent.org/tut2007/html/index.html
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> I'd suggest you do it in Squeak 3.9 to closely match the version the
> tutorial was done in...
> http://files.squeak.org/3.9/
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> cheers -ben
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>> If you used Squeak in the past and don't now, what pulled you away?
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>> To be honest, it's more a mystery what keeps pulling me towards Squeak,
>> given my poor results until now.
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>> What does Squeak lack that you think might make you use it for 'regular'
>> development?
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>> I am not in a position to answer this question.
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>> What things are too hard or annoying to do?
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>> Everything is hard, but not annoying. I probably need to get more general
>> knowledge of the 'Object Oriented' paradigm, and some UI design skills. A
>> 30+ year career in mainframe development left me a very procedural guy, and
>> a UI for me has 30 lines with 132 colums each.
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>> What would you like to be able to use Squeak for?
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>> What got me interested was reading about Squeaknos, turtles all the way
>> down, at one of those moments I was struggling once more with a linux
>> upgrade that destroyed the GNUstep installation I had managed to install.
>> Now I see this is miles beyond my reach, but that was the spark.
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>> Currently, I'm trying to build an intelligent doorbell, with Squeak and a
>> Raspberry Pi that was laying around here. Now if only it would just ring
>> outside the simulation.
>> Did I mention my knowledge of electronics is far below average.....
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>> I don't know if this is of much use to you, but since you asked....
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>> tim
>> --
>> tim Rowledge; tim at rowledge.org; http://www.rowledge.org/tim
>> C for sinking, java for drinking, Smalltalk for thinking
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