[squeak-dev] All-In-One distribution (was: Changing the Trunk version from 6.0alpha to 5.2alpha)
eancaer at gmail.com
Wed Jun 6 15:11:12 UTC 2018
Now I am not counting on making massive amounts of money with Squeak, but I
would like to know if someone with a good knowledge of Squeak environment,
could arrive at applications that can relatively stand the comparison
(taking into account that Squeak is open source) with applications
developed with VA Smalltalk or Gemstone.
I can imagine Squeak suffering a bit on the UI-part, but would there be
much difference in supported functionalities, you think?
All applications are for personnal use, and as good looking an interface
can be, I attach more importance to the usability of my applications
anyway. Of course if one can get both....
Op wo 6 jun. 2018 15:42 schreef Louis LaBrunda <Lou at keystone-software.com>:
> Hi Germán,
> Just an FYI, and not to knock Squeak or Pharo you might take a look at
> VA Smalltalk http://www.instantiations.com or GemStoneS
> https://gemtalksystems.com. May people
> use them to develop business and web applications with them.
> >Hi Dave:
> >I enjoyed a lot smalltalk and its communities but I failed thinking that I
> >could make a living with it. Might be my lack of talent but other people
> >with an infinite more capability than me failed at same way and my
> >stubbornness for use Smalltalk in my business only made me lost lot of
> >and money.
> >Of course I miss the technical purity of Smalltalk and objects everywhere,
> >but it is not viable, in my pov, to develop massive business applications,
> >neither web, nor desktop and much less mobile.
> >Just my opinion.
> >Saludos / Regards,
> >Germán Arduino
> >2018-06-01 23:39 GMT-03:00 David T. Lewis <lewis at mail.msen.com>:
> >> On Fri, Jun 01, 2018 at 01:01:31PM -0300, Germ??n Arduino wrote:
> >> > 2018-06-01 9:33 GMT-03:00 David T. Lewis <lewis at mail.msen.com>:
> >> >
> >> > > On Fri, Jun 01, 2018 at 12:50:08AM -0700, John Pfersich wrote:
> >> > > > Smalltalk is a hobby; I haven???t had an offer for Smalltalk work
> >> since
> >> > > 2005.
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > > >> As with you, Smalltalk is a hobby for me.
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> > I should have realized this before and then I would not have wasted 20
> >> > years with Smalltalk, who barely bought me a cup or two of tea :(
> >> You should think twice about this. If you thought that Smalltalk was
> >> to make you rich, then you are probably a sad and disappointed person.
> >> you thought that Smalltalk might be a tool to help you think clearly and
> >> explore new ideas, then you may be a happy and satisfied person.
> >> I don't know if anyone will ever make any money by being happy and
> >> satisfied,
> >> but I can say that in my own experience that the learning that I have
> >> with Squeak has been a big part of enabling me to make a decent income
> >> the last 10 or 15 years of my professional life.
> >> To put it in more concrete terms: I do systems integration work for a
> >> manufacturing company, and this involves (among other things) some
> >> software development (not Squeak, not Smalltalk). I am good at what I
> >> do, and I get paid for it. A significant part of the "I am good at what
> >> I do" aspect is attributable to Squeak, or more specifically the
> >> that I have derived from Squeak.
> >> So I am a happy "hobby" Smalltalker. I make zero income from Squeak,
> but I
> >> can honestly tell you that a good deal of my actual professional income
> >> is supported by my hobby.
> >> YMMV,
> >> Dave
> Louis LaBrunda
> Keystone Software Corp.
> SkypeMe callto://PhotonDemon
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